DrDoom Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Saying it's one directly causing the other is a bit misleading, even though road tax rises for motorbikes are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 It is a little known not-quite-fact that if there were no cars, and only motorbikes, there would be less motorbike accidents.Stupid.. I mean, cool, I can tax my fiat for free, but not on the penalty that motorbike riders pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Why is it always a need to change?Emission laws killed off the 2 stroke production, probably the single greatest icon of a classic motorbike.The big advantages and selling points of a motorbike or moped is; "cheap to run, cheap tax, low emissions", how is this supposed to be encouraged by rising tax?Have you got any numbers or percentages as to how much it rises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 The 100% best thing they could do for discouraging twats on motorbikes is to make a test compulsory for all sizes of bikes.Motorbikes, as well as having less emissions than a car, are a shitload more efficient, cause they're lighter, for a start. So surely that means cheaper tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Just nabbed this from MCNAs well as my bikes I own a 5.3litre Jaguar. Steve would have this vehicle taxed out of existence but, like the government isn't he missing the point, which is that whatever the size of the vehicle it does not affect green issues until you start the engine. If the government was serious about green issues it would tax use of a vehicle by increasing the price of fuel and not ownership of the vehicle. Furthermore, my Jag is 20 years old and my contribution to saving the planet is that I haven't changed it every 2 years for a more fuel efficient car like most people do. Consequently, I have saved a massive amount of carbon by not contributing to the cost of mining new iron ore, smelting it to make steel, running a car plant, etc. etc. Put all that lot together and compared to people who think they are green I'm contributing considerably less to climate change with my 5.3litre than they are with their brand new lean machines.I think thats hit just about every point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDoom Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Don't a shockingly high %age of motorbike riders have no tax anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 If that's true, I think if this goes ahead, even less will have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Don't a shockingly high %age of motorbike riders have no tax anyway?Was that not a government statement which was later revoked because the figures were completely made up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Was that not a government statement which was later revoked because the figures were completely made up?So like every other governemnt figure and statistic then?Thing is, they'll raise tax on motorbikes for whatever reason, all the motorbikers go out and buy an eco car instead, that will just make conjestion even worse, which will burn more fuel by everyone sitting in worse traffic for longer periods of time.... score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I doubt they'll do it. Think about how much money they rape motorists on currently with Car Tax. If they do that, they'll have to put it up in another place as well as for motorbike users.Anyone hear council tax going up again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) It's all about pre-'73 cars, anyway Edited March 28, 2009 by Marvin the Martian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDoom Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Although what comes under the class of a low emission car? No doubt only the newest cars that are powered by happy thoughts and lepricorns and throw flowers out of the exhaust? Edited March 31, 2009 by Baby Pizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 OH, YOU GOVERNMENTS, WHEN WILL YOU STOP OPPRESSING US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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