Chandler Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 If it has eyes I dont eat it lolI reckon if you are unable to kill it yourself, you shouldnt be eating it!Yeah, Im a veggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 That if you don't care eat itAnd if you don't like it don't... Think thats what it should always come down to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) If we farmed human children, would you eat them? Edited March 17, 2009 by Chandler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 If we weren't supposed to eat animals, they wouldn't be made from delicious meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 If we farmed human children, would you eat them?Depends if you could get a good cut of meat off of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Depends if you could get a good cut of meat off of them.Steady there Armin Meiwes!I think the whole animal rights thing is a bit naff, animals don't have anywhere near as much intellect and as many feelings as we do. And the whole would you eat a human child thing is invalid, that's cannibalism, and if it was part of the social norm then sure I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 My family have been farming for many years, I have been involved in pretty much all aspects of growing animals for meat, We have beef cattle, sheep and pigs, I know for a fact that these animals have had a good life whilst living and know from personal experience that when they are killed at the slaughter house it is a very quick and humane process. I can understand why some people don't eat meat, but i get very defensive when they start picking on the farmers, alot of farmers i know, along with myself take great pride in their animals (I know some that don't and it does sicken me!) we try to keep them in the best conditions possible whilst they are living, and I would say that they have good lives! As for the comment that was made along the lines of "I reckon if you are unable to kill it yourself, you shouldnt be eating it!" I grow animals for meat, but i am not able to kill them myself, for example we had a cow that slipped and broke its leg, neither me or my uncle were able to take the gun to it to shoot it (We had the local hunt come and take it away), farmers have a connection to thier animals, especialy if you have put so much time and energy into them, yes I could kill a rabit or fox etc, but it is not the same, there is not the emotional connection, The only animal on our farm that i am able to kill is the chickens (free range egg layers), we had a bad flock where alot got very unhealty and would die, if we saw an un-healthy one we would remove it and kill it, but the chickens are different to the Cows, sheep and pigs as they are bought in large numbers (1000+) and are for the purpose of laying eggs, if they are not laying then we get rid of them.....I may have gone on a little bit there, but I hope you get the point I am trying to make.Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Oooohh aaaaaaarrrrrr!!!!I have nothing against the farming of animals for meat/produce, however I dont agree with battery farming or inadequate living conditions. Free range where ever possible My gf can pluck, gut and cook pheasant from start to finish; not something that I would really wish to do but Ill happily eat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I've mentioned my views on this to my Mum and Sister many times, whenever any sort of cooking programme is on TV where they show you hunting the animal, they'll both go 'awwww' but they'd have no problem eating the said animal.I believe that you should only eat what you are prepared to willingly kill. Thinking about it, eating a living thing is far more barbaric than killing it...which in my opinion makes you a hypocrite if you're against the killing of any animal.As far as animal rights go, I'm a mixed bag. Yes, I believe animals should be treated well during their life, however ultimately they're food and ultimately they're going to die...so what difference does it make if they're treated well or not? I think the only benefit to this you can hold the 'moral highground' knowing that the chicken breat you're pouring gravy over had a pretty lush life before it was slaughtered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 ive killed and gutted rabbits, pheasants and fish, whats the problem its only abit of fun. definately more interesting that just buying itand a message to all you faggy veggies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgnoseat Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Steady there Armin Meiwes!I think the whole animal rights thing is a bit naff, animals don't have anywhere near as much intellect and as many feelings as we do. And the whole would you eat a human child thing is invalid, that's cannibalism, and if it was part of the social norm then sure I would.I hate people who say this..What does intellect and feelings have to due with ones value to live?Does a person with an IQ of 152 have more right to live than people who have a lower IQ? don't think so..same goes for animals.An animal is a living being, it has as much right to live as any other being.I actually find that animals have more right to live than humans, animals rely too much on their instincts to be "evil" (some exceptions for smart animals like chimps), as opposed to humans who can commit sins in several ways. Humans have done this planet no good, I think it would be alot better if the species which live on their instinct only existed here.I might sound a little like an extremist but i'm not just my opinion. Edited March 17, 2009 by omgnoseat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whizza Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) If we weren't supposed to eat animals, they wouldn't be made from delicious meat.first off if thats your view then what type of living sentient thing are you.and by the way why do you think flesh gives humans clogged arteries and not dogs? because the human species evolved as herbivores/veggies.Dude I totally support your friend for doing his own activism.Pleas someone give me a good reason why "animals" ar any different to us? they are sentient beings just like ourselves and intelligence wise they have have different sort that would rival any human. Why not try to presserve this world? too many "I dont care I won't be alive that long" bollocks.The state of ignorance is f**king appauling in this day and age but if you want to live like that then do as you wish just dont write dumbf**k comments like that keep the stupidity to yourselves please.THEY ARE NOT PROPERTY TO BE EXPLOITED FOR HUMAN ENDS Edited March 17, 2009 by Whizza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Gray Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 you got pwned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, but they taste good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Surely it's just part of nature, at least humans kill their meat humanely, a lion or a shark would just rip it to pieces while it's still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Doesn't bother me. Ill eat whatever, kill it if i have to. Good program to watch was the kill it , cook it, eat it program.Also, its called the food chain, we happen to be at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I hate people who say this..What does intellect and feelings have to due with ones value to live?Does a person with an IQ of 152 have more right to live than people who have a lower IQ? don't think so..same goes for animals.An animal is a living being, it has as much right to live as any other being.I actually find that animals have more right to live than humans, animals rely too much on their instincts to be "evil" (some exceptions for smart animals like chimps), as opposed to humans who can commit sins in several ways. Humans have done this planet no good, I think it would be alot better if the species which live on their instinct only existed here.I might sound a little like an extremist but i'm not just my opinion.Its a very idealistic argument, but doesnt hold true in a devolved society such as ours. You want to ride bikes, drive cars, use phones and computers, but left to your own devices you wouldnt be able to make any one of them from scratch. I could kill something and butcher it, but probably wouldnt make a very good job of it, my time is better spent earning so I can pay someone else to practice the craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 THEY ARE NOT PROPERTY TO BE EXPLOITED FOR HUMAN ENDS+1getting butchers to kill animals for you to eat, is about as justified as hiring a hitman to kill someoneMurdering animals should become illegal...."killing humanely" is a contradiction in terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgnoseat Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Its a very idealistic argument, but doesnt hold true in a devolved society such as ours. You want to ride bikes, drive cars, use phones and computers, but left to your own devices you wouldnt be able to make any one of them from scratch. I could kill something and butcher it, but probably wouldnt make a very good job of it, my time is better spent earning so I can pay someone else to practice the craft.Yes you're right, I didn't really meant we should change the way we are living now, it's too late for that.But it would have been better for the world if there would have never been any humans, and the whole system of life would have carried on in a more natural way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 +1getting butchers to kill animals for you to eat, is about as justified as hiring a hitman to kill someoneMurdering animals should become illegal...."killing humanely" is a contradiction in termsHow else are they going to kill them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialschallenger Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 i completly agree, i feel that if an animal is bread for human consumption weather it be a chicken/pig/cow that that is there purpose in life is it not?but exotic meat by that im assuming crocodile?kangaroo?emu? that sorta thing?to which i dnt agree with at all becuase the animals are not bread for out consumption to me that is inhumane and quite sickening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) How else are they going to kill them?"Killing humanely" is a contradiction in terms because killing is an unhumane act in itselfin other words, it shouldnt be done at alledit:cba to keep posting si-man... not exactly going mental, but which meat eater is gonna defend vegetarianism? think about italso, why would that be veganism..(vegans dont eat animal products, which has nothing to do with ending an animals life) Edited March 17, 2009 by Chandler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Always the veggies that go mental about it. Surely though, you should be a vegan if you think like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 in other words, it shouldnt be done at allI refer you to my previous statement:Yeah, but they taste good?Aren't vegetables "living things" until you rip them brutally from the ground?*~*~*~*~*HYPOCRISY ALERT*~*~*~*~* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 True. Killing for food is nothing, it's killing for sport that is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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