Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 ok well a boy brought in an intense m1 to our bike shop, and the headtube is flared big style.after looking on Tinternet we found out ways of fixing it.welding the headset in loctight.is there an actualy way to fix it ? (i dont beileve there is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 King steelset with massive cups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 shims/turn a headset cup with a wider than normal external diameter on the part that goes in the frame diameter, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 bodge it with coke can around the headset?Or lathe a new cup up like sam says.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Coke can on the flared side and bosh it on. Or araldite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Coke can on the flared side and bosh it on. Or araldite.Why the hell would anyone pay you to work in a bike shop?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Shut up? That's not what a bike shop would do, they would tell you to get a new frame, this is a home, completely unrelated to work, so therefore not a professional view, bodge, so i can say it reguardless of my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 ok well a boy brought in an intense m1 to our bike shop, and the headtube is flared big style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) No way of repairing, could bodge it but you'd be f**ked over when the kid goes into hospital and you wouldn't stand a chance in court / probably do time. And i'm guna have to agree with Sam on this one i'm afraid fatty. Its people seeing things like this from people who work in Halfords that give us all a bad name. Shame on you. Edited March 15, 2009 by Robwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Holy shit! I could have sworn i read it was synergys. My bad. I'm drunk ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Normally i would say get a new frame, but its ashame on the boy he jsut got it and we were looking at other ways of possibly fixing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Glue in an unsealed headset for him? So he can change the bearings in time if they get rough? I know f**k all about this kinda stuff but seems like an alright bodge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 It could be fixed, with a bodge, which isn't 100% safe or guaranteed, and its going to be more trouble than its worth. Personally I'd advise him on how he could fix it, but say its not safe and you cant carry out the work because you wouldn't be covered by insurance if it went wrong, but at the same time strongly recommend a new frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Glue in an unsealed headset for him? So he can change the bearings in time if they get rough? I know f**k all about this kinda stuff but seems like an alright bodge...nah buddy its like. if it was a trials bike and you took the forks out your headset cup should stay in the frame, but with his bike i can slide it out with one hand, when the forks are in i can spin the cup round and round.hope that makes sense It could be fixed, with a bodge, which isn't 100% safe or guaranteed, and its going to be more trouble than its worth. Personally I'd advise him on how he could fix it, but say its not safe and you cant carry out the work because you wouldn't be covered by insurance if it went wrong, but at the same time strongly recommend a new frame.yeah well im really doing it as a favour just looking the bike over for him. anyother time a headtube is flares we say new bike nothing else. but as it is my friend and he asked i thought i would just see. to be honest the chris king idea is the only one i would try at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 but with his bike i can slide it out with one hand, when the forks are in i can spin the cup round and round.Yea on a friend trials bike, i took the forks out on it and the cup fell out... still rode fine'ish though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Yea on a friend trials bike, i took the forks out on it and the cup fell out... still rode fine'ish though.yeah you shouldnt be able to do that lol.they should be pretty hard to move as they are a pressed fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Shouldn't be able to move it at all! Nukeproof do a deep cup headset, not as expensive as a king, but proper nice. Think it's about 40/50 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Shouldn't be able to move it at all! Nukeproof do a deep cup headset, not as expensive as a king, but proper nice. Think it's about 40/50 quid.sweet thanks for that i will have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 yeah you shouldnt be able to do that lol.they should be pretty hard to move as they are a pressed fit.mine does it too...apart from having to make sure my headset is actually tight, it really doesn't make much difference to me.Probably a bit different if you actually go places quickly over bumpy stuff though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 mine does it too...apart from having to make sure my headset is actually tight, it really doesn't make much difference to me.Probably a bit different if you actually go places quickly over bumpy stuff though?nope same with a trials bike if your headtube is flared its not good. if your going to be going to front it will damadge more and more and more. maybe not noticable first but it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 yeah yeah i know...but seriously...you can barely tell...one day my bike will be mint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Dear diary; Jackpot!Loctite actually make a product for fixing this very problem, but not on a bike but in pumps, slow running compressors, screw conveyors etc.. It's a really thick bearing fit goo.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Chris King/Nukeproof route is the safest IMO but i'd still be telling him to get saving. Did he buy it with a flared headtube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Chris King/Nukeproof route is the safest IMO but i'd still be telling him to get saving. Did he buy it with a flared headtube?yeah he bought it 2nd hand for 350 quid its not bad the rest of the bikeneeds new shock bushes , hope bulb bearings but allround apart from the frame its a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Have a look for some devconF, its an aluminised 2part epoxy putty that is used to repair gasket and flange faces (amongst others) in the aerospace industry, get some of that in there and get the headtube re-machined - should be near enough good as new, especially if combined with a deep set cup Its not cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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