Luke_zoo Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 what will happen if i drill the streer in my forks to make the bike light will it mess it up or not?like weeken them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cox. Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 there be weaker for starters, and good luck to you if your "in to" gap to fronts or hooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 the end result will be loss of teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 i thought about this, as the steerer snaps at either end of the headset as that is where it can flex, so middle bit of the steerer inside of the headtube shouldnt have much stress on it as to flex it both cups of the headset would have to move aswel which doesnt happen (unless you have a flared headtube) so in theory you should be drill it alot... how steerers have you seen snap inside the headtube? none... iv killed over 10 pairs of forks and never seen it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 im sure try-all / koxx have made/ are going to make a fork with a cnc'd lump out of the steerer tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Morton Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Something I mentioned to Matt yesterday, has anyone ever thought of a titanium steerer? I know it would cost a bomb but the weight saved would be unbeleivable. I reckon it would be worth it on bikes like the silver sky, kamel, boxx etc....Just a moment of madness but meh!thats a really good idea is that it would of been thought of before im pretty sure but would cost the manufactures more to make so the idea would get scraped i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 thats a really good idea is that it would of been thought of before im pretty sure but would cost the manufactures more to make so the idea would get scraped i guessyea would cost a fortune, prob would not sell many on the principle. remember how much the middle ti bash was.. More on topic drilling your forks would be a mistake, weight saved would be next to nothing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siyross Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 what will happen if i drill the streer in my forksYour forks will end up being bendyer than a bench with a fat guy on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Your forks will end up being bendyer than a bench with a fat guy on it.hha i like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 yea would cost a fortune, prob would not sell many on the principle. remember how much the middle ti bash was.. More on topic drilling your forks would be a mistake, weight saved would be next to nothing as well.Correct.the cost of Ti parts isn't just the material itself, it's the tooling costs. There is not much machining on a steerer tube compared to the bashring/sprocket.The thing is with machining titanium alloys, is that the stuff is really tough. This isn't the same property as strong or hard. These are separate properties. Lead is also tough, but very soft (malleable).Anyway to keep it simple, titanium blunts tools, fast. You also have to machine more slowly and you must keep it very cool, otherwise it catches on fire.I was once machineing a titanium alloy component when I was an apprentice and it caught on fire. I shit myself, the old guy that used to teach me machining, just laughed and said to leave it burn. Titanium is also very hard to put out once it goes up, like magnesium.A set of forks with ti steerer would not be massively more expensive to produce. Don't forget markup on Ti Items, companies get away with it because the general public thinks titanium alloys are magical.The thing is with Ti components is that they must have some mistique so the money can be charged. There is also a thin line between what someone is willing to pay and what they are not.You can sell more alloy steerer tubed forks say for £50 because more people are willing/can afford a £50 set of forks than even a £70 set of forks (examples not facts).The xtra, £ it costs to have a Ti tube then becomes an issue.This is due to the tooling costs. For every 100 alloy forks you sell at £50 you may only sell 10 Ti at £120.The tooling has cost you the same as the alloy forks + the extra because of the above mentioned Ti tooling problems.I think I have confused myself Anyway my point is that it would not cost much more to manufacture the Ti steerer forks it's just you couldn't make the figures add up enough to be worth it so companies don't do it.Imagine getting all that Ti for a reasonable cost then asking mucho libre for a poxy axle, people would think you were having a laugh.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbikefix Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 good luck if you drill them, i remeber a mate of mine who thought it would be cool to drill holes through his handlebars .. you can imagine what happened to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siyross Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 good luck if you drill them, i remeber a mate of mine who thought it would be cool to drill holes through his handlebars .. you can imagine what happened to him!I can imagine how that went."Hey mate i just drilled my bars"crunch"Dude you want your teeth back?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Correct.MattAdd to that a titanium steerer tube would be flexy as f**k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side hop shaun Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 ok this really annoys me if you drill ANYTHING on your bike it will severely weaken the bike there is no point, seriously if you want to save the ten grams if that from drilling the forks, why dont you strip the paint or better yet go to the gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan GU Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Isit worth it to make your bike 10g less? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbikefix Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Isit worth it to make your bike 10g less? lol.no it isn't ... loads of people pick my bike up and go, oh my god, jesus wept that bad boy is heavy. But i can still do the same things as they can on there super light weight tin foil pieces of kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Something I mentioned to Matt yesterday, has anyone ever thought of a titanium steerer? I know it would cost a bomb but the weight saved would be unbeleivable. I reckon it would be worth it on bikes like the silver sky, kamel, boxx etc....Just a moment of madness but meh!just imagine yourself shortening that steerer without special machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side hop shaun Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 like i said there is absoulty no reason for worring about the weight of your bike, i have a saracen team mad weighs a ton quite literaly i have no problem keeping up with my mates on there 10g bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 you're an idiot. no doubt about it.saying weight doesn't matter doesn't make you look good.light bikes ARE easier to ride, theres no denying it.why not try going for a run with lead in your shoes... lets say 500g on each foot. will make it loads harder to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Lighter bikes are easier to ride but you can go too far with it, and randomly drilling things is not the way to go with it.There are loads of other ways to make your bike lighter without corrupting the integrity and designed safety factor of their original manufacture, let alone risking smashing your teeth out or worse.Once you have done all the usual stuff then it may be time to look at drilling things, but personally I think drilling the steerer is going a bit far.You may as well start thinking about taking up pakour or whatever it's called. Trials on yer feet.You could always hold your hands out in front of you like your holding the bars and pretend to do pedal kicks and shit......... Sorry I can't go on I'm laughing to much.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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