JT! Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Pretty sure i'm getting a Czar (long) mod frame to replace this short dumpy thing i have now. Just seeing if anyone has owned or ridden one and what you thought of it.Also, if anyone can remember the geo of the old echo (i think it was the 05), with the big holes like on the t-uk frame, as i'd like to do some comparing.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) I think the 05 echo was something along the lines of 362mm stays, 1030 wheelbase, 72 degree headangle (was there a short? if so, itll be the same but less reach). So fairly similar to the long czar.. Edited March 13, 2009 by Hobnobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think the 05 echo was something along the lines of 362mm stays, 1030 wheelbase, 72 degree headangle (was there a short? if so, itll be the same but less reach). So fairly similar to the long czar..There was a short yeah, good that's pretty much what i'm hoping to end up back with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 My short Team has +57 bb. Just to let you know, It didnt say in the post above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 My short Team has +57 bb. Just to let you know, It didnt say in the post above What year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) 05, The one with the holes at the headtube join Edit: I acctully have the frame sitting next to me just now. Chainstay=360mm Wheelbase=1005mm Reach=23.5"Those measurments are with the back wheel push right into the drop-outs. Edited March 14, 2009 by Echo-Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 05, The one with the holes at the headtube join Edit: I acctully have the frame sitting next to me just now. Chainstay=360mm Wheelbase=1005mm Reach=23.5"Those measurments are with the back wheel push right into the drop-outs.I wonder if the short and long had the same bb hight. Because i don't remember my old echo having that high of a bb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) Im not sure if they did or didnt to be honest. But when i moved from my Echo with +57 to my Gu with +60, I did notice a difference in feel of BB height. So maybe the Echo just feels lower than it acctully is? Edited March 14, 2009 by Echo-Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 The 05/06 Echo Teams:Long: 1030mm wheelbase, +55mm bb height, 362mm chainstays. I don't know the head angle though.^that was the paper measurement anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan-Trials Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I love my czar, rides amazing in my opinion, but im 5'9 and it does feel a tad to long though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 You better be going dual disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 You better be going dual disc. I've been dual disc since last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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