2 Small Questions

[Chris - Burman]

hi guys,

i would like to know if any one can awnser two small questions i have?

1. will a hydrolic disk brake caliper, work with any rotor? say avid or somthing similar, or do you have to have a hope hydro rotor or gothic or somthing like that?

2. what is the diffrence between a stock frame and a mod frame? which is better? are you at more of an advantage if you have a mod/stock?

regaurds,

chris.

[Revolver]

hi guys,

i would like to know if any one can awnser two small questions i have?

1. will a hydrolic disk brake caliper, work with any rotor? say avid or somthing similar, or do you have to have a hope hydro rotor or gothic or somthing like that?

2. what is the diffrence between a stock frame and a mod frame? which is better? are you at more of an advantage if you have a mod/stock?

regaurds,

chris.

1. So long as the caliper has the right mount for the right size of disc, it will work. Doesn't matter about the design on the disc.

2. Generally, taller = stock, shorter = mod, but that's not always true. Mods are lighter and easier to throw around, but stocks have more leverage and rolling ability.

[Guest]

1. from what i have heard any rotor will work, but some work better then others

2. its what you prefer, some people are small and prefer small bikes and some small people prefer larger bikes. its what you feel comfortable with!

[Ash-Kennard]

1. the aslong as the disc is the correct size it can be used. avid and hope discs are the best to get, but its not really a problem if you use something else

2.

• Pros: 20" MOD
  • Superb standover clearance
  • Easily manueverable in most every circumstance, especially anything rear wheel
  • Less expensive
    • Less parts to break
    • Nearly impossible to bend the rim of a well-built 19" rear mod wheel running enough tire pressure
    • Learn to sidehop up to both sides without worrying about a rear derailleur
  Cons:
  • Some people may think it's a BMX bike
  • A pain to ride more than a mile or two on
  • May be harder to find parts for it
  • Harder to roll down things
  • Easier to go over the handlebars (but less scary when you do)
  • Doing wedge or wheelbase moves is less comfortable

Stock (26" wheels)

• Pros:
  • More stable
  • Bigger wheels = roll everything easier
  • Easier to do wedge or wheelbase moves
  • Easier to pedal-kick on odd surfaces because of the larger diameter wheel
  • You can ride to your riding spot easily (if you have a seat and working gears)
  • Looks more like a mountain bike
  • People won't ask you to "grind" stuff or think you do BMX vert or street
  Cons:
  • Bigger bike = less standover clearance = pain if you fall on the bike
  • Easy to hit knees on top-tube of most bikes
  • Less room to work with for bending down before sidehopping, bunnyhopping, etc. or when absorbing landings
  • More expensive because of greater frequency of breakage and more parts to break
    • Rear derailleurs - easy to smash into things (though most bikes have replaceable derailleur hangers that will bend before the derailleur is broken)
    • Wheels - 26" size = easier to get out of true or taco (20" wheels are extremely hard to ruin when built and used properly)
    • Chain can slip down or up a gear while you ride if your chain is too loose, or you smack your derailleur in section and break it
  • Heavier

[Chris - Burman]

1. So long as the caliper has the right mount for the right size of disc, it will work. Doesn't matter about the design on the disc.

2. Generally, taller = stock, shorter = mod, but that's not always true. Mods are lighter and easier to throw around, but stocks have more leverage and rolling ability.

thanks for that matematete big help

[sstein]

1. the aslong as the disc is the correct size it can be used. avid and hope discs are the best to get, but its not really a problem if you use something else

2.

• Pros: 20" MOD
  • Superb standover clearance
  • Easily manueverable in most every circumstance, especially anything rear wheel
  • Less expensive
    • Less parts to break
    • Nearly impossible to bend the rim of a well-built 19" rear mod wheel running enough tire pressure
    • Learn to sidehop up to both sides without worrying about a rear derailleur
  Cons:
  • Some people may think it's a BMX bike
  • A pain to ride more than a mile or two on
  • May be harder to find parts for it
  • Harder to roll down things
  • Easier to go over the handlebars (but less scary when you do)
  • Doing wedge or wheelbase moves is less comfortable

Stock (26" wheels)

• Pros:
  • More stable
  • Bigger wheels = roll everything easier
  • Easier to do wedge or wheelbase moves
  • Easier to pedal-kick on odd surfaces because of the larger diameter wheel
  • You can ride to your riding spot easily (if you have a seat and working gears)
  • Looks more like a mountain bike
  • People won't ask you to "grind" stuff or think you do BMX vert or street
  Cons:
  • Bigger bike = less standover clearance = pain if you fall on the bike
  • Easy to hit knees on top-tube of most bikes
  • Less room to work with for bending down before sidehopping, bunnyhopping, etc. or when absorbing landings
  • More expensive because of greater frequency of breakage and more parts to break
    • Rear derailleurs - easy to smash into things (though most bikes have replaceable derailleur hangers that will bend before the derailleur is broken)
    • Wheels - 26" size = easier to get out of true or taco (20" wheels are extremely hard to ruin when built and used properly)
    • Chain can slip down or up a gear while you ride if your chain is too loose, or you smack your derailleur in section and break it
  • Heavier

You are working on the assumption that all stock bikes have derailleurs when most of them are singlespeed these days.

[Simpson]

You are working on the assumption that all stock bikes have derailleurs when most of them are singlespeed these days.

Yea because tensions are alot better... my 74kings lasted less than an hour..

Mech's still going though!

[sstein]

Graeme is running a stock without the need for a tensioner, my last stock worked without a tensioner, my modstock and lots of new stock frames have horizontal dropouts. Also, if you have the right gear ratio and a 74 kingz tensioner, plus set it up properly, it should be impossible to break it!

[Ash-Kennard]

You are working on the assumption that all stock bikes have derailleurs when most of them are singlespeed these days.

don't be such a bellend, i was just giving him the information i was given all those years ago from biketrials.com