Greetings Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I believe that triton is no more, shame really My frame is 1585g, so lighter than the control to start with, I think it is a fair bit flexier than yours though, I need to run a rear 2bolt booster really. Ive topped 9kg so Im relatively happy, might put the BT forks back on to drop it down to 8.8 though Im not sure if you could get away with a supersonic mountain king without a heavy tube, I think its got lighter sidewalls than a single ply maxxis Lucky you, would love mine to be 1.58kg. I used to run a Nobby Nic 2.4" on the rear which was 650g. Must have had around 20-30 snakebites in a month, after that i threw it away. It was the most awful, pinch happy tyre ever. Surely this Conti can't be any better seeing as it's actually lighter. Also about the stiffness, have you tried removing the booster? When I got my frame it was flexy as f**k, brake wouldn't work at all. Even an Echo 4 bolt booster couldn't keep it from bending. After a few weeks of riding the brake started becoming more and more solid up to the point where the booster was no longer necessary. Now the brake is pretty much rock solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've been running a Rubber Queen with a Maxxis Welterweight tube for about 4/5 months now, the tubes f**ked, I must have pinched it about 6/7 times, it's covered in patches now. So I doubt it, I don't like the look of the tread pattern on the mountain kings either, I reckon the rubber queen would hook up on edges much better.The Rubber Queens really are amazing. Mine is just about the grippiest tyre I've ever used, and looks like it's hardly worn at all, and I got it second hand. It's hardly even torn at the edges of the knobbles in the middle!Ive run the rubber queen with a normal tube since october and its not pinched yet, to be fair I havent been riding as much as I would like Ive got a mountain king on the front and it grips really well, I reckon it would work on the rear although perhaps not as good as the rubber queen (which I must agree with you is astonishing )Lucky you, would love mine to be 1.58kg. Also about the stiffness, have you tried removing the booster? When I got my frame it was flexy as f**k, brake wouldn't work at all. Even an Echo 4 bolt booster couldn't keep it from bending. After a few weeks of riding the brake started becoming more and more solid up to the point where the booster was no longer necessary. Now the brake is pretty much rock solid.Its still pretty flexy with the booster on, bite is very good and not had any problems with hold so far, I prefer a softer brake as it eases the tendonitis in my brake fingers - Im also running an RB lever which always induces more flex; the brake booster is only 20g so I can afford to keep it for the weight I will try it without when my new pad refills come through from heatsink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Go for the Lightest mod now.Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I worked out a lightest mod spec and it was around 7.5kg due to the heavy tyres, not worth doing IMO.The rear tyres are only bad if you are a basher. Gav has a Protection version (sidewalls are no thicker than the Supersonic) and only gets the odd flat, even though he rims out quite a lot.The frame weight if this bike is 1.590kg.I am quite sure this bike will not 'snap in 4 months of riding' either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Short version would have been lighter Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Wrooooong:1590g (Long, Silver version), 1616g (Short, White version). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Short in Silver would be a bit lighter though... but... short bikes aren't really regarded as competition bikes, so we built a long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Ah yeah, just saw they did a silver short. Who woulda thunk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Wrooooong:1590g (Long, Silver version), 1616g (Short, White version).Wrooooong Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 18t freewheel when 16t is available. Didn't go with the KMC hollow pin Kool chain in 3/32" then. Regular alloy top cap?I'd buy it, but i'm a lefty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 18t freewheel when 16t is available. Didn't go with the KMC hollow pin Kool chain in 3/32" then. Regular alloy top cap?18t freewheels are much more reliable, gives better gear ratio, works better with the frame (for brake alignment mainly). The hollow pin chain is death, and the top cap is lighter than all the carbon ones I've ever seen (it's drilled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 TartyBikes in "knowing what they talk about" shocker!Makes me laugh that so many people try to say you've made wrong decisions here there and everywhere, rather than admiring this as quite possibly the most beautiful trials bike ever built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yeah it is pretty silly when a people turn a bike pic thread into, you should have used this part instead of that type a deal. It is a beautiful bike (best looking control ever) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniel Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 7.80kg - 17.20lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I worked out a lightest mod spec and it was around 7.5kg due to the heavy tyres, not worth doing IMO.I think you should still try it cus 7.5 kilos is stupidly light and it would be nice to see it and hear about how it rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd91 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) HERE , my dream bike, its beautiful Edited February 25, 2009 by edd91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Cant belive you got it down to 17lb, with about cutting bits off, theres nothing THAT special about the spec either. its all "achiveable"ha well done guys.Echo headset? surley theres a lighter one out there! Edited February 25, 2009 by The Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Echo headset? surley theres a lighter one out there!The echo sl is the lightest headset out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Echo headset? surley theres a lighter one out there!http://tartybikes.co.uk/search.php?categor...by=weight%20asctheres the proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 there is a crank brothers one that weighs cheff all, but it'd get munched far to fast to validate the £ and grams, the echo one is mad light and plenty strong enough and the price is decent. winner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Cobalt? 65g? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 cobalt titanium 58g pwns the echo SL at 95g i'd still prefer the echo, just cause it'll live longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 We've got a cheap cobalt at work, I might weigh it just to see if it really is 65g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 7.8kg stock!!! thats insanely light, and it doesnt look to bad either it looksrideable rather than snapable.I kinda wanna build up a light stock, just to learn a bit more on and thats like a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) 18t freewheels are much more reliable, gives better gear ratio, works better with the frame (for brake alignment mainly). The hollow pin chain is death, and the top cap is lighter than all the carbon ones I've ever seen (it's drilled).I just questioned it because you decided to build a super light bike. I too wouldn't ride a 16t (on a trials bike) freewheel or hollow pin chain but it just means the extra bit of saving. I'd of thought 16/13 would come in close enough within 2mm ish? (i'm pretty much guessing)[edit]whoops! Edited February 28, 2009 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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