Sam Jones Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The family of the victims familys have to live with the fact that the person who killed etc is still alive and they took the life of the one you love. Speaking from experience, the death penalty will take a lot off of my mind with the b*****d drivers. but yet again, killing them will give them the easy way out. i think the laws about killing should be changed. (just to clarify, they only have to serve half there sentence if they have been served 5 years or under, if over that then its 2/3's) so if they have killed someone then they will have to stay in prison for the rest of there life. One thing that really pisses me off about prison though is the fact that most people in there are getting a better life than what they would of had out of prison. I recon what they should do is find out what there yearly wage was and half it. that would be what they would have to live on and they would have to pay there own bills etc back to the government out of that money. They would have to live on half of there yearly wage. The amount it costs to keep someone in prison for a year at the moment is £37,000. I recon that they should either have to do the previously suggested or they would all be put in a secluded town where they would have to fight each other to survive/ learn to live together. They would have no help from the outside world except for the prisoner officers who have the right to shoot to kill if they tried to escape. If they kill, and are caught, they have to live with it. and if they try to escape that fact then they deserve to die for what they fail to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHI-sam Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 yes, eye for an eye, life for a life i say!prison is crap, they just put you in there, you dont suffer anywhere near as much as peoples familys and no one thinks its justice, they should bring it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 "An eye for an eye, that's your science?f**k it we're the same then, let's get blinded." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) instead of death, what about chopping off body parts......you could even give them to amputees!!!! Two birds with one stone certain Muslim based country's do that, they chop hands off if you steal! (we were doing it in r.e)EDIT: we wasn't chopping hands off if that's what it looks like Edited February 1, 2009 by Jamie_Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 certain Muslim based country's do that, they chop hands off if you steal! (we were doing it in r.e)EDIT: we wasn't chopping hands off if that's what it looks like So if we ride our bikes on walls they'll chop our limbs off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Manual Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ask Maher. Maybe that's what he's been going on about injury-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Watch this video:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=275_1221700787And tell me that if caught, these people should just spend a few years behind bars. I would happily push the button on all those that stamped / punched this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Watch this video:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=275_1221700787And tell me that if caught, these people should just spend a few years behind bars. I would happily push the button on all those that stamped / punched this guy.Oh My god.Thats just brutal.And How could anybody do such a thing?(probs on the smirnof) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 what about if you get in a fight and they start punching you so you defend your self and they hit there head on a curb and die, you feel they should get death sentence? i think that would just be wrong for defending yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Seriously thats f**ked up. I dont completely agree with you killed you get killed. Mainly because however crap being killed is, it just seems like an easy option. Watched a programme some time ago about prison life and the inmates were taking the piss basically, saying its too easy, life can be better on the inside, especially if your from a shit area to begin with. I know our current system is nowhere near perfect, but I think improvements made in that area would benefit a whole lot more. I mean tougher sentences, without meaning to sound like I mean putting inmates in a tiny black box, tougher living conditions, some of these prisons they have televisions and all sorts, they are in there to serve time for a crime not a holiday camp! The person who killed rhys jones, I think that was his name? Could be out in 3 years. To me thats not on. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 What about if it was a revenge thing? like theres a lot of people id like to kill to be honest but i wouldnt unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 For the whole thing about, what if someone murdered your family member. if you watch ross kemp on the london teen gangs special, he talks to the mother of a lad killed by "the muslim boys", and theyd told the lad theyd murder him on that day if he hadnt converted to islam, by that day, he didnt, so he got killed. but listen to the interview with that mother, she says she forgives the lad that did it, because at the end of the day, he just got mixed up in wrong crowd, and her son didnt. there was nothing seperating them. For mr plod, national service, couldnt agree more... just dont see the downside to it (also have got a similar idea about people who want to come and live in our country, and be apart, should be willing to fight for it, and serve 3 years in the british armed forces, then gain citizenship in the uk). But on the regular front, i just dont see whats wrong with it, it teaches people discipline, gives us people who are trained to fight should the need arise (not talking necessarily wars here, but in the event of a terrorist attack etc, how to detain people, how to adminster first aid to victims etc, things which we lack as a country right now), gives young people a purpose in life, and also cuts obesity rates.As for the whole kill people who kill, im going to go with no.I had a mate serve 2 years for GBH, for something he didnt really do, but to be fair that wasnt that far off being a murder case ( 2 drug addicts were trying to mug someone who was blindly drunk, my mate was walking back through town after a night on the tiles and a quickie, at about 5am, when he comes across this (and knows the lad being mugged), steps in against 2 guys much bigger than himself, so hits them, hard, broke the one blokes jaw, and ended up with him on life support several days later, as he was giving the 2nd one a kicking, the police rolled round the corner, and nicked him, but the police only saw him beating someone up, the guy who was blind drunk, couldnt remember the incident, so his testimony was pretty much ignored, so with the polices view on things, and the 2 smackheads testimonies, my mate got sent down, but in all fairness, there probably wasnt much from turning that from life support, to death) would it be right if he was executed for that. likewise ive got scars on my inner elbow, from a fight in town a couple of years ago, where i was stabbed with a pint pot by a gypsy,luckily id got a couple of mates there, who layed into them,and some bouncers from a nearby club went beyond their job decription and ran down and turfed the gypsies out (as well as taking them round the back and giving them a kicking, but thats beside the point)but if hed of caught me in the stomach, and then carried on stabbing me, would someone knocking this bloke round the back of the head with a fire extinguisher to stop him stabbing me, but going a bit too hard and killing the bloke, really be ready for execution, bearing in mind hed of saved someones life. Again, something else i witnessed was when a bloke pulled his trousers up to reveal a ghurka knife as a scare tactic to my mate, who thought better of taking any chances, and layed into him before he had chance to take it out to try and use it. ive been round people and seen numerous knives be pulled on people, im sorry, but if a knife is pulled on you, and you then kill that person, without meaning to kill them, you dont really deserve a long stretch, let alone execution, I dont carry a weapon (other than my pork sword) but if someone pulled one on me, i think if i fought back, id make sure id be hitting them hard enough, so they wernt getting up till id got a chance to get away. which may mean a fine line between a beating, and a killing. about the people who steal should have their hands chopped off? a bit excessive you think.Oh yea, and sex offenders etc, is a 16 year old lad, shagging a 14 year old girl(the year below him in school), really deserve castration, as a child molester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Manual Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Oh yea, and sex offenders etc, is a 16 year old lad, shagging a 14 year old girl(the year below him in school), really deserve castration, as a child molester.No, he deserves a medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 We can't really discuss individual cases - like I said before it's all down to the situation.About the situation up the page:If a guy starts on you and you punch him back in defense and he hits his head and dies you certainly don't serve the death penalty - it's self defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 The person who killed rhys jones, I think that was his name? Could be out in 3 years. To me thats not on. Not at all.But if he gets out in three years, someone will probably kill him when he gets out. That's happened before I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) say this was your usual fight in the street and you did serious damage to somebody, are you looking at alot of trouble?by serious i mean broken nose/jaw/ slight disfigurement... Edited February 1, 2009 by Mike W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Where does the line become between murder/ killing which gets prison or execution. Because I can imagine alot of lawyers fighting for their clients to get them out of the areas that involve them being killed themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 say this was your usual fight in the street and you did serious damage to somebody, are you looking at alot of trouble?by serious i mean broken nose/jaw/ slight disfigurement...Just worries me to think that sometimes thats your only way out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 There's a difference between manslaughter (That is what it's classed as if you kill someone using self defense isn't it?) and actually going at someone with the intention of killing them.The people I would like to see executed are the gangs that go out purely to kill someone, not the guy that gets started on while he's walking home and accidentally kills someone through self defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Manual Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 If only Diana were here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 say this was your usual fight in the street and you did serious damage to somebody, are you looking at alot of trouble?by serious i mean broken nose/jaw/ slight disfigurement...to be honest theres such a slim chance of getting caught i wouldnt worry.no ones going to try and mug you in a busy place, or a secure place etc so theyd be no evidence of what ever happened really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) to be honest theres such a slim chance of getting caught i wouldnt worry.no ones going to try and mug you in a busy place, or a secure place etc so theyd be no evidence of what ever happened reallyyeah i suppose, im not really thinking of that situation though :\ more along the lines of dark alley Edited February 1, 2009 by Mike W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Im not sure it should be brought back but I believe that if you're caught carrying a knife/gun you should get an instant 10 years in prison, minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 hahaha, what?guns yeah sure, but knives? millions of people carry knives and use them as tools, should they go to prison for 10 years for having a useful tool?I'm glad most of you aren't old enough to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 hahaha, what?guns yeah sure, but knives? millions of people carry knives and use them as tools, should they go to prison for 10 years for having a useful tool?I'm glad most of you aren't old enough to vote.According to your profile i'm older than you... I believe a knife permit may have to be introduced for people with an actual need. It doesnt take a genius to work out the kind of people carrying a knife for malicous reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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