TomR Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 If prison wasn't for rehabilitation but punishment, and people served their full sentence i'd be happy. Surely 'good behavious' should be decided after they've served their sentence, and if they're good, they don't go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Funny how nobody has answered my previous point.If somebody murdered a relative or friend, would you be happy to see them out of prison in 8 or so years?Well clearly not, but that doesn't mean you have to kill them.What everyone seems to be saying is that life should mean life, with no luxuries in jail, etc. If the government murdered your relitive or friend because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got found guilty for something they didnt do, would you be happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Why not just put them to good use by locking them up forever, but in a place to make my trainers. The UK struggles to get its manufacturing costs down, and yet there's all those thousands there who aren't worth minimum wage. Sorted.I personally wouldn't be against the death penalty if it was in place, but I don't know whether I would vote for it given the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 If the government murdered your relitive or friend because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and got found guilty for something they didnt do, would you be happy?Of course not, which is why the evidence would have to be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Solid is a bit of a loose statement though isn't it, as someone else said, what if there was new evidence after the triggers been pulled, even though beforehand the evidence looked 'solid'?I agree with manual labour style work, like community service but more tightly controlled.What about people who are in fact reformed by their experience? Take londons biggest gangsters, The Krays, for example. One of them now actively tries to help people with problems after he found God whist in prison (what was God doing in prison i hear you ask).If he was killed, he wouldn't have helped the hundreds of people that are now better humans wondering round on the earth making it better for us. Which is the whole point, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Manual Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 You only get killed if you deliberately kill someone.Simple answer? Don't shoot or stab anybody...That would just be sinking to the same level. If someone kills another person than they should be punished, but doing exactly the same thing in response is not civilised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 And who would push the button? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ward Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I agree with manual labour style work, like community service but more tightly controlled.put them all on excercise bikes connected to generators, that way we get free power and save the planetinfact do that to all the unemployed and pay them a very little amount and fat people, then they wont be as much of a drain on the NHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Eh? Why would you want them out of prison?while were making up our own laws....if i somebody killed somebody in my family id like to get them personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 while were making up our own laws....if i somebody killed somebody in my family id like to get them personallyThat's called taking the law into your own hands. If that was allowed then the country would be MUCH worse off.Solid is a bit of a loose statement though isn't it, as someone else said, what if there was new evidence after the triggers been pulled, even though beforehand the evidence looked 'solid'?I agree with manual labour style work, like community service but more tightly controlled.What about people who are in fact reformed by their experience? Take londons biggest gangsters, The Krays, for example. One of them now actively tries to help people with problems after he found God whist in prison (what was God doing in prison i hear you ask).If he was killed, he wouldn't have helped the hundreds of people that are now better humans wondering round on the earth making it better for us. Which is the whole point, yes?Yes, maybe, but I think that's the only major case like that - most people serve their time and end up back in within a year.Advances in science have made wrong convictions much less now and obviously with a punishment so severe they would have to have no doubt that they had the right suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikenipple Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'd have to say yes, but only if it's used liberally so the number of people on the roads goes down; I hate rush hour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I personally say yes, bring it back and kill those that kill.+1 they should be killed vigilantly too as they started it and don't value life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 You are all absolutely insane to think capital punishment is in any way a deterrent or constructive. If we focussed more on rehabilitation it would yield much higher reductions in repeat offences. If anyone here reinstates the death penalty I'll f**king kill them myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) You are all absolutely insane to think capital punishment is in any way a deterrent or constructive. If we focussed more on rehabilitation it would yield much higher reductions in repeat offences. If anyone here reinstates the death penalty I'll f**king kill them myself.Your forgetting that people that do these crime arn't normal people, senario's where someone stabs someone to death on a bus over the tinyest thing, calmly presses the button and walks off at the next stop without batting an eyelid. Someone getting stabbed by 2 youths after asking them to pick up a bit of rubbush. A bouncer getting shot for enforcing the no smoking in public places law....These people have killed people with wife / kids, and parents, what type of justice is it for them for their taxes to go towards "rehabilitating" someone who doesn't give a f**k, and killed there son! I belive that 99.999% of these kinds of killers don't care, the main thing that disturbes me about these people is they show no remorse, and even have the face to grin and laugh in court because they know that they can be out within of least 7 years which is a joke, and prisions here don't punish the people enough as it is... the whole system is jokes.I can honestly say that I do feel that there are people that don't deserve to live. And if one of them killed someone I cared about I would press the button without missing a heart beat, and without blinking. Edited February 1, 2009 by Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Okay, but your solution of killing the results of the problem will not kill the root of the problem. Why are these people commiting these acts? Lack of education? As a result of bad parenting? Then work on cures for these problems rather than just killing people, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Lots of normal people commit crimes though simps, not everyone is a sociopath, some people just get pushed too far, some just don't know when to stop. Now, I'd never done a crazy thing in my life before that night. Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion it's called murder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Okay, but your solution of killing the results of the problem will not kill the root of the problem. Why are these people commiting these acts? Lack of education? As a result of bad parenting? Then work on cures for these problems rather than just killing people, surely?There parents undoubtedly and the people they chose to socialise with, but thats not something that anyone can control or help with, unless you plan to screen parents and nute the irrisponsible ones.Lots of normal people commit crimes though simps, not everyone is a sociopath, some people just get pushed too far, some just don't know when to stop. Now, I'd never done a crazy thing in my life before that night. Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion it's called murder?I am not saying that all murders should get the death penalty at all! Thats not what I'm saying, I'm talking about the exceptions as i said above, I'm talking about people who go out of there way, with a pre-meditated actions, with the aim to kill someone who is totally innocent.Oh and about the killed in war thing - Its different standards really, shooting someone who's out to kill you is fair game. Killing an innocent person in war is still murder. Edited February 1, 2009 by Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr ailsbury Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Death Penalty is the easy way out really 'cause once they're gone they're gone. If they go to prison they've got to live with what they've done forever.A life sentence should defiantly mean life though, and good behavior shouldn't make any difference to the length of a sentence, its just like letting them off the hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 they've got to live with what they've done forever.This is where your all wrong, that is bollocks! They don't care they don't have that remose! Me I stole a chocolate bar once when i was younger and felt shit for a week, there not like that at all, they dont feel that. Instead they sit in a cell for 4 years, make more criminal links into the underworld, then get a new identity brought for them by the tax payer. They don't have to live with shit. They may pretend to, to please he parole board but other than that? Na'cause once they're gone they're gone.'Yep.... sounds like a good plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 You're starting to sound like the tabloids man, say what you really think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I put yes, but only to people who kill etc.I would like to be in the middle.Main reason because of the damage i do with my lovely friend bash guard i might loose a limb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 WHAT IF THEY COME BACK AS GHOSTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'd never done a crazy thing in my life before that night. Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion it's called murder?Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr ailsbury Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 WHAT IF THEY COME BACK AS GHOSTS?like freddy cruger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 You're starting to sound like the tabloids man, say what you really think.Its not exactly how I feel but I felt more like playing devils advocate to try an liven this up a bit, seemed a bit one sided for my liking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.