Mike Winton. Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 http://tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?produc...;category_id=40Whats the idea with the disc mount on wrong side? just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I tihnk it's so people who sidehop to the left have an option of a fork with the brake on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 It's not that at all. Have a look at the thread on the new Pashley frame, I think the mount being there has something to do with brake performance on hooks or something?Trials motorbikes are the same too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) And in the process - the screw the people over who sidehop to the right EDIT: That was to BJH. Dan's too fast for me Edited January 1, 2009 by aener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 How do you think the people that side hop to the left feel when it comes to every other frame/fork? Then again I s/h to the left and have a DD bike and have never hit my discs doing it. If you side hop to the right you can run any other fork, you don't have to run these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted January 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 BUT if its for hooks you gap to front more than you hook so surely its a bad idea, looks really bad too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidehop Stuart Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 The disk looks better to the opposite side to the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Tim Steadman (he tests for Pashley) was saying how he preferred it on the right. Not only is it on the 'other' side (which doesn't really make much difference), it's also on the top of the fork so it's harder to bash the caliper. He also reckoned the braking felt more positive or something, I don't know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Harding Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Bit pricey though arent they, i know they have disc mounts and 4 bolt now etc, but they used to be like £50 now they are £77. presume they are a better fork now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 The price of raw materials in the last 12-18 months has shot up considerably. That has to be taken into account, plus the R&D costs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Will it not just snap the forks easyer?mehMat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Because the mounts on the front? pulling the disk caliper away from the forks rather than too the forks? or whatever, i dunno.Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Depends what tricks you're doing, on gaps to front and sidehops surely it's gonna be stronger? But I understand what you're saying seeing as apparently it's designer for hooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekes Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 You are all wrong. Braking with normal disc mounts causes the hub to come out of the dropout due to the reaction force on the braking. Try it yourself if you use a front disc. Tighten the QR very mildly, or let it completely loose. Ride along at a very slow pace to avoid crashing and pull your front brake. Your axle will come out of the dropout at the disc side and your tire will rub your fork.With the new pashley forks the disc mount is on the front of the fork leg. It doesn't matter what side it's on, but the right side makes it work with normal calipres. When you brake now, the axle will be forced upward in the dropout due to the reaction force from the disc brake. If you do the test again with the loose QR, you will notice that your wheel barely moves at all when pulling the front brake.This is also why a lot of mountain bike forks have 20mm or 15mm through axles. To avoid wheel wobble from heavy braking actions at high speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 You are all wrong. Braking with normal disc mounts causes the hub to come out of the dropout due to the reaction force on the braking. Try it yourself if you use a front disc. Tighten the QR very mildly, or let it completely loose. Ride along at a very slow pace to avoid crashing and pull your front brake. Your axle will come out of the dropout at the disc side and your tire will rub your fork.With the new pashley forks the disc mount is on the front of the fork leg. It doesn't matter what side it's on, but the right side makes it work with normal calipres. When you brake now, the axle will be forced upward in the dropout due to the reaction force from the disc brake. If you do the test again with the loose QR, you will notice that your wheel barely moves at all when pulling the front brake.This is also why a lot of mountain bike forks have 20mm or 15mm through axles. To avoid wheel wobble from heavy braking actions at high speed.INTERESTING STUFF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookyboy Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 That seems to make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Depends what tricks you're doing, on gaps to front and sidehops surely it's gonna be stronger? But I understand what you're saying seeing as apparently it's designer for hooks Yeah i tend to change my forks just for hooks lol, who needs a better brake when hooking stupidly random, id rather have a good brake on a gap to front rather than a hook, but not like it would make much difference if youve got a 200mm mono trial/bb7.Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekes Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I'm thinking of getting some in V-brake version, in orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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