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Just played with a remapper and it is receiving a 'ky' input from striking the 'k' key, 'me' from stricking 'e', '64' from the '6' key, etc. Arrrrrrgh!!!

Pretty sure. I've only had this problem from spills but all seems dry and I'm the only one who uses it.

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mainly looking at muel for this one, but anyone else free to chip in with their 2 cents.

Right, currently running an amd phenom 9500 quad core(clock speed 2.2ghz), a gtx460 768mb graphics card, and 4gb ddr2 ram.

everything works ok, but im getting trounced on entry speed into games, and some older games(gta4 for example dont work)

Bearing in mind i do no hard app work at all, its all for gaming.

Would i see a benefit in going I7 over a phenom 2 x4 3.7ghz or x6 3.3 ghz??

would be running it with 8+gb of ddr3 1333mhz, may be tempted to whack another gtx 460 in there. but yea am i going to see much benefit from the extra cost.

also, recommend a decent socket 1155 motherboard, with 4 dimm slots, for as cheap as possible??

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mainly looking at muel for this one, but anyone else free to chip in with their 2 cents.

Right, currently running an amd phenom 9500 quad core(clock speed 2.2ghz), a gtx460 768mb graphics card, and 4gb ddr2 ram.

everything works ok, but im getting trounced on entry speed into games, and some older games(gta4 for example dont work)

Bearing in mind i do no hard app work at all, its all for gaming.

Would i see a benefit in going I7 over a phenom 2 x4 3.7ghz or x6 3.3 ghz??

would be running it with 8+gb of ddr3 1333mhz, may be tempted to whack another gtx 460 in there. but yea am i going to see much benefit from the extra cost.

also, recommend a decent socket 1155 motherboard, with 4 dimm slots, for as cheap as possible??

First of all, you need to find the bottleneck. That CPU, RAM and GPU are pretty balanced IMO, and to do an upgrade on that motherboard is dead money. (DDR2 and AM2+ at a guess?).

I wouldn't recommend AMD at the moment. For cheapy end stuff they're amazing, (especially the Athlon X4 640 I have at work, £65 for a quad core that will use DDR3? Silly cheapys.) If you're wanting a decent increase in speed over what you have now though, and i7 2600K with 8gb of fast DDDR3 would be my suggestion.

As for adding another 460, I'm not really sure if it will give you much of a visible increase. I have a GTX460 786mb at work, and it seems pretty powerful to me (although the most demanding game I've run on it was BFBC2).

If you're looking for a cheap upgrade though, a second hand 955BE/965BE would help. They're clocked at 3.2/3.4ghz and also have a 6mb L3 cache compared to your current 2mb.

Can you clarify, is it purely loading times you want to improve or framerates? If you just want faster loading times, I'd consider an SSD. I've not got one, as I can't be arsed, but I'm told they're pretty fast.

Have you considered a complete upgrade? Expensive I know, but I have to say, there doesn't seem to be one particular "hole" in your current spec, it's just all a couple of years old.

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First of all, you need to find the bottleneck. That CPU, RAM and GPU are pretty balanced IMO, and to do an upgrade on that motherboard is dead money. (DDR2 and AM2+ at a guess?).

I wouldn't recommend AMD at the moment. For cheapy end stuff they're amazing, (especially the Athlon X4 640 I have at work, £65 for a quad core that will use DDR3? Silly cheapys.) If you're wanting a decent increase in speed over what you have now though, and i7 2600K with 8gb of fast DDDR3 would be my suggestion.

As for adding another 460, I'm not really sure if it will give you much of a visible increase. I have a GTX460 786mb at work, and it seems pretty powerful to me (although the most demanding game I've run on it was BFBC2).

If you're looking for a cheap upgrade though, a second hand 955BE/965BE would help. They're clocked at 3.2/3.4ghz and also have a 6mb L3 cache compared to your current 2mb.

Can you clarify, is it purely loading times you want to improve or framerates? If you just want faster loading times, I'd consider an SSD. I've not got one, as I can't be arsed, but I'm told they're pretty fast.

Have you considered a complete upgrade? Expensive I know, but I have to say, there doesn't seem to be one particular "hole" in your current spec, it's just all a couple of years old.

its everything really bfbc2 loading times are awful, worse than my mates 4 year old laptop but some games dont run that well, stuff like dirt 3 runs ok(30 fps +) on medium settings etc, but then gta4 regularly drops down to like 10 fps (and shows its using all my graphics cards available memory at 1360x768 res, low to medium settings)

I read that the gtx460 scaled incredibly well in SLI tests (i.e better than a single gtx 480 1536mb,which cost twice as much)

I would upgrade the complete system, but the only thing Id be keeping when upgrading is HDD (although would be adding an SSD at some point) and the graphics card (ram is ddr2, motherboard is am2). I wouldnt be spending over £250 on a graphics card, as i just cant justify it, so adding another one at circa £110 seems like the smart choice. so figure i may as well use the current graphics card over building a new system.

Also allows me to get it all up and running now, and upgrade it over the next couple of paychecks. Ive currently got a brand new i7 2600k I could have tomorrow night, without paying a penny for it(lad owes me £800,he doesnt have it, but would give me the processor for money off his debt, as he cant afford to build a new pc at the moment), i could pop to aria on thursday and pick up a socket 1155 motherboard, and 2 4gb sticks of ddr3 ram for say £180. build it up and have it running thursday afternoon.

Then when im paid the end of the month, go spend another £180 on a second gtx 460, and a 60gb ssd drive.

then in a few weeks, go pick up another 4gb stick or 2 if i wanted to.

meaning for £360 I could have an i7 rig, with 8gb of ram, twin gtx 460's, and a ssd.

which when you compare it to complete systems.Like these.

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If I were you, I'd do that upgrade you just planned out, although RAM is dirt cheap atm, so I'd go for 2x4gb straight away, not 2x2gb now and 2x2gb later. (Also running 4 sticks instead of 2 can cause instability and limits overclocking, although I think that's mainly AMD stuff).

CPU is sorted then? 2600K would be my choice. (Get a decent cooler).

Don't get a cheap board though, you'll only end up replacing it. I'd recommend this one. It will only run the two 460s at x8/x8 instead of x16/x16, but that's what mine does, and I researched it fairly carefully, it only makes a 2-3% reduction in speed, but you save £60 on the motherboard.

RAM is a funny one on SB, apparently they perform best with Corsair XMS3. Basically SB Doesn't like running the RAM at anything over 1.5v, so you need something that will run at a decent speed at 1.5v. (Make sure if you go for that RAM, that you get that specific one. They also do an XMS3 that runs at 1600mhz, but with slightly tighter timings at 1.65v, which SB doesn't like).

Try to get exactly the same graphics card if you can.

Last point, get overclocking it! Any 2600K will hit 4.6ghz easily with a decent air cooler, and I've seen a lot of them go over 5.0ghz now.

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I haven't had the time to look at it, but my computer is taking ages to turn on. Literally sits at the motherboard splash screen for minutes. Any ideas what the problem is?

I've got a sneaking suspicion that the PSU might be shagged. That or the motherboard...

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I'm having issues making my Netgear DG834G V4 (DGTeam firmware) work on my new O2 internet connection. Would very much like it to work.

It finds the DSL, and can tell me the speed of the line and the amount of noise on it, but it can't connect.

Anyone using either this router or one of the O2 ADSL2+ packages?

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I'm having issues making my Netgear DG834G V4 (DGTeam firmware) work on my new O2 internet connection. Would very much like it to work.

It finds the DSL, and can tell me the speed of the line and the amount of noise on it, but it can't connect.

Anyone using either this router or one of the O2 ADSL2+ packages?

I don't know a whole lot about router config (just the basics) but if you go to Router Status on the left hand bar, then press Connection Status (at the bottom of the new page), what does it say there? If it's blank, just hit connect in the popup box and it should try to reconnect and then give you the error)

It should display your connection error if it's not connecting. If it's along the lines of PAP/CHAP failure it's a login problem and your input username/password is wrong (needs changing in Basic Settings from the left hand bar again). Anything else and I'm stumped.

e: This link has the settings that need to be in the router to ensure it connects. I'm not too sure about the differences between the Standard settings and Home Access settings on that link (more than likely will make sense to you as it probably refers to the package you've taken out with O2) but the majority of those settings should be found under the Basic Settings and ADSL Settings on your router.

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That link is broken, but I presume it's supposed to go to the O2 page with the details of how to use a non-O2 router? Went through thtat one first. :(

Here's all my configsss:

dg834g-settings.jpg

It can complete the DSL test as you can see, because it knows how much speed the line could be running at in theory, it's just not getting a connection. I reckon this is MAC addrtess related, got a few ideas to try out.

Rather than me type everything twice, this is worth a read.

EDIT: In other news (should be in happy really?) I found out last night that the new AMD FX-8170P will work in my motherboard. 4.2ghz 8 core, with 4.7ghz turbo. Those are the stock settings! A 5.0ghz oct core could well be on the horizon. :D Won't come out until at least Q1 2012 though.

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Evening all, After a bit of PC advice. This is coming from Overclockers.co.uk custom build thingy..

Hoping someone in the know could have a glance over it and let me know that it is reasonable for £570 (Bare in mind that they are building it for me)Will it be capable of running most games at a fair level?

- Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit

- OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W Power Supply

- Asus Xonar DG 5.1 PCI Sound Card with built in Headphone Amp

- OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)

- Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache

- Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (with FREE DIRT3 Game)

- Use to follow computer stuff mildly but currently have no clue on what’s what and I am looking for some advice into the following spec for running a few games!

Here is a list of what I have upgraded from the standard options (Found here http://www.overclockers.co.uk/syscon_int.php?prodid=FS-283-OK): - It comes to £570. (£500 with no O/S)

- Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit

- OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W Power Supply

- Asus Xonar DG 5.1 PCI Sound Card with built in Headphone Amp

- OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)

- Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache

- Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

- Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 4GB (2 X 2Gb) 1600MHz

- Asus M4N68T-M LE NForce 630a (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard

- AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 850 "95W Edition" 3.30GHz (Socket AM3)

- Cooler Master Elite 335 Case - Black

Seem like a reasonable setup? Any ideas on changes (Without making it more expensive!)

- Asus M4N68T-M LE NForce 630a (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard

- AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 850 "95W Edition" 3.30GHz (Socket AM3)

- Cooler Master Elite 335 Case - Black

Anyone have any advice on changes that could be made? Idealy with things that can be swaped about on here: but I am sure others could be made if I ring them!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/syscon_int.php?prodid=FS-283-OK

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Would not touch AMD right now. The Phenom II quads and even the 6 cores don't match up to the old i7 D0, and get slaughtered by Sandy Bridge. You'd be so much better off with an i7 2500k.

This is coming from the worlds biggest AMD fanboy. :P

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Would like to run Fallout 3 and Bad Company 2 ideally. Also GTA IV would be good but looks like it takes a beast of a machine to get it running well?

Starting to think I would be better of with a console maybe. Cheaper and less hassle!

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I'll spec up what I'd buy now in a wee while.

Cheers Muel! Ideally from somewhere that will build it for me. Don't forget I need a copy of windows in there as well :)

Also have you heard of DinoPc. They seem miles cheaper than everyone else but online reviews are mixed..

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I'm struggling to do a 2500k build on £570, cheapest I've done was £800. Trying to make it possible to have a GTX560 and for it to have the option of adding another for SLI, but it's tricky. :(

Adding anything to do with Intel seems to bump the price up massivly I've been looking at the I3 stuff to be even nearly affordable. Is alot to be saved by building them yourself generally?

Maybe I will have to up the budget :(

Would you say the 2500k (Is that I3 / 5 or 7?) and a GTX560 will run those games to a reasonable level?

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I think in the long run, you get more for your money if you build from scratch.

The 2500k is the i5, general consensus is that it's the best value for money Intel chip ATM.

That, 8gb of RAM and a GTX560 will be easily enough for now, if you feel you want more FPS in some games though then you can add another 560 later.

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I think in the long run, you get more for your money if you build from scratch.

This is definitely the way to go, and it's not too hard. My first build was a bit sloppy but I was 14, I've done 3 since, and they've got better and better. I'm actually quite looking forward to being in a full time job and being able to build my next, because I'm just that much of a nerd.

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