Rusevelt Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) I think everyone at some point has expressed their views on the pros and cons of a 120 click hub and now that there is a trials specific 120 click hub on the market, im just wondering if anyone has any insight on this product? Ps, Trials-Uk have apparently sold a few already. Edited December 15, 2008 by Rusevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 hahawould be interesting to see the internals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Based on the look of the freehub and axle ends on this it may well be the same as the superstar or Halo 120 ep hub with a different body. It might work for trials, but I'll let other people try them first - the Superstar on my XC bike has been flawless since I fitted it in Feb/March... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Looks a little weedy ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I'll say no. Don't go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grant_hundley Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I say no to be honest... if you want that many engagements get a freewheel... if you want strength get a Pro2 or king... if you wanna but of both get a Classic king, it all depends though.If you ask me it doesnt look the strongest!What free wheel does 120ep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) What free wheel does 120ep? 108, close enough.The pawls are probably gonna be on the outside and the ratchet bit is gonna be on the freehub body, not too bad designwise, just means the slots are a bit smaller than if it was on the outside... 6 and 3 2s though i guess. Edited December 11, 2008 by Fixed Pants™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 108, close enough.For a week.. Then you'll have none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grant_hundley Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I didnt mean exact... but if you want strength but lots and lots of engagements get a freewheelNo such thing as a strong freehub with over 60 engagements apart from king! Therefore if you want that many clicks and quite a lot of strength you should go fw and fixed hub! IMOBut you have to remember, you get more than 72ep's (for a king) at the pedals compared to a 72ep eno.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 My tryall freewheel has been perfect so far!and if you put a freewheel on the rear it will feel more responsive to a king IMO. Im running a monty freewheel on the back on my limey and it feels more responsive than a king. And there is less stress in the freewheel when its on the rear. dont ask my the why or how cause i dont know lol! but they last a hell of a lot longer on the rear for some reason.But the viz hub doesnt look too reliable in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 For a week.. Then you'll have none.Mine lasted me 9 months, and is still going on my mate's bike 4 months after i sold it to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 But you have to remember, you get more than 72ep's (for a king) at the pedals compared to a 72ep eno..How?360 degrees of crank rotation with 72 engagment points along the way. It'd be the same if you hade a front freewheel or freehub... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 How?360 degrees of crank rotation with 72 engagment points along the way. It'd be the same if you hade a front freewheel or freehub...The "magic" of gear ratios my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 How?360 degrees of crank rotation with 72 engagment points along the way. It'd be the same if you hade a front freewheel or freehub...a wheel will not turn at the same speed as a freewheel though...due to the diameter of the wheel. (i think thats the basics of the argument against your post). Ill let someone else confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 it's to do with the gear ratio.confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 At what point have any of you thought "48/72ep's is not enough for me, I need MORE!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Me, when I couldn't quite make the 41.234264" sidehop. I reckon the extra engagement will mean I could make it next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Me, when I couldn't quite make the 21.234264" sidehop. I reckon the extra engagement will mean I could make it next time. I heard someone riding one of the halo superdrive thingys the other day and they just sound horrid ... Id rather have 24 reliable and proven points than 120 that will break your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I think they sound great, but not as good as a King because the clicking isn't a constant volume/frequency as the freehub makes a full turn. If the one I have is still perfect in 4 or 5 years time I'll consider one on a trials bike. The freehub body is Aluminium though, so most singlespeed sprockets will chew it to bits in no time...The trials-uk webpage says the hub has 8 pawls though, so the internals may not be the same as the Superstar/Halo, but the external parts look so similar I reckon the page might be wrong.I'd buy one for the back of my hardtail right now if trials-uk didn't have such a bad reputation for delivering . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) Looks a little weedy .......I agree with you there. looking at size of the Hub shell where the internals are it doesn't look very beefy. it looks almost as small as the 1st generation Hope Pro-2 hubs. i guess time will tell. Edited December 16, 2008 by Rusevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I heard someone riding one of the halo superdrive thingys the other day and they just sound horrid ... Id rather have 24 reliable and proven points than 120 that will break your face.Don't you mean "I'd rather have 48 reliable HopePro2TTechnology™ points"? But nah, I definitely agree with you.With the talk of gear ratio stuff - when I went (Back in the day ) from a Dicta to an Eno (so 18 to 72), there was a noticeable improvement, and simply from changing to the Eno I could gap over a foot further. That was largely because I had no faith in the Dicta, and it was a pile of balls, but if you went from, for example, a 24-click hub to a 72-click hub I think you'd notice a difference in your riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Based on the look of the freehub and axle ends on this it may well be the same as the superstar or Halo 120 ep hub with a different body. It might work for trials, but I'll let other people try them first - the Superstar on my XC bike has been flawless since I fitted it in Feb/March...The Superstar 120 click hubs are off the list for XC and trials. The hub shown was used for XC only on a Giant Trance (full suspension XC bike) - here's what I found in mine earlier this week when it lost drive after about a year (The last few months it hasn't been used at all though): Edited April 23, 2009 by psycholist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Is that just the bearings that have self destructed or the ratchet system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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