Dan S Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 After snapping me eagle claw bashplate, i decided to try a ring. Choise stopped on this one.Wanna know how strong is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 They're made for UCI style riding (i.e. used little and infrequently in theory) and as such they're not really designed to be beaten to death. I'd guess that if you're snapping Eagle Claw guards it's going to get abused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 they can withstand my harsh landings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I can't say i've been smashing my bike on a bash all days long but sometimes, attempting a bunny, i can sit on my bash hard(not often)That's practically the only reason i need it for. In any other situation, i can jump off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 If you are a basher like me - get the ally half bash. Its a bit stronger and weighs not much more .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 A bit stronger?Could you compare their strength using 1-10 grades please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I've seen Ali bend his Ti one before, they really dont take much abuse, i've actually got a full alloy Trialtech bashring for sale, never been used. PM me if your interestedAndrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 the one I bent was a pre-production one.....the newer ones are made from a tougher Ti, I have tanked mine (ask iolo) and its only got a tiny tweak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 iv got one of the production ones and like ali said they can take a hammering, im so supprised my one is still in such good nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr kenny Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 the one I bent was a pre-production one.....the newer ones are made from a tougher Ti, I have tanked mine (ask iolo) and its only got a tiny tweak. ant the electrical box?lolthey are pretty strong bash's by all accounts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 the one I bent was a pre-production one.....the newer ones are made from a tougher Ti, I have tanked mine (ask iolo) and its only got a tiny tweak.Ah right, fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek0 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'm very impressed with Trialtech's bash ring, it's VERY strong.It looks fancy out of the bag and thinking, how much difference can it be being titanium.Was I wrong...I ended up taking a hammer to thing because I couldn't get the bash to settle in the right place. I barely dented the edge by wacking it five or so times.And landing on it wrong, it destroys the object more than anything. The bash itself is just scratched unlike with aluminum bash you get a big dent after awhile. The Trialtech ti bash ring is definitely worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 And landing on it wrong, it destroys the object more than anything.That's exactly what MP D. Anderson was talking about. You are the one causing 3 million pounds worth of damage each year. Get out.I've got al aluminium one, it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Trialtech stuff is always top notch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Trialtech stuff is always top notch Indeed *a lot* of it is! Though, I can't help but be totally honest here: Some of it is really standard and cheap off-the-shelf stuff that you see rebranded by countless other brands or tweaked ever ever so slightly. As a component brand sistered to Inspired, shouldn't it try to break out of the mould of being a fairly standard components brand much like Try-All used to be a few years ago; and instead aim to be an extremely high quality and innovative brand like Odyssey in BMX (whilst still maintaining fair prices.. like Odyssey!).One of the things I love about Echo/Zoo/GU/Czar/Adamant is that despite some minor problems here and there, they are a brand that keep their prices fair across the board and aren't afraid to push for innovation and totally new stuff. Despite the slagging off it sometimes gets, I'd say Deng has one of the higher quality companies on the trials market. For example, Zhi/Bionic stuff and some Monty parts I've had and seen on shelves in China and Spain, respectively, have more often than not had some parts that are just embarrassing in quality. You get that a lot in the BMX world though...on a curious note, has anyone ever tried the titanium bashring by Aorta? It's been on Selectbikes for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Trialtech wants products to suit all riders budgets, unfortunately you can't always custom make parts and still sell them at budget prices. The good news is that Trialtech is coming out with some AMAZING new parts and ideas for the future not seen elsewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 For example, Zhi/Bionic stuff and some Monty parts I've had and seen on shelves in China and Spain, respectively, have more often than not had some parts that are just embarrassing in quality.Well, I might be wrong here but some of the higher priced Monty stuff is of amazing quality. Cranks for instance. 221Ti's are apparently made of 6061 alloy but have lasted me longer than most of my mates have been riding their Echo CNC cranks (loose tapers). The Monty's still won't go right to the end of the BB so unless they crack, they're good for another few years. And they're superbly light, weighing in at around 375g. Neon 7075's weighed about that and they cracked like crazy. That's just an example of high quality 6061 alloy (Tryall cranks are the same) in relation to medium/poor quality 7075 which is supposed to be the better material for such applications. Sorry for this OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I missed Neon off there. They are pretty dodgy in a lot of components, did I mention Ko-Bikes? Though I do like some of Neon's bashrings.Agreed, some of Monty's higher end stuff is good, but a lot of the other stuff doesn't really impress me at all. The most ridiculous part is when they overcharge for stuff that is rebranded. Anyone remember the Dicta freewheels that Monty rebranded as theirs (well, there was no physical rebranding, but you get the drift..) and they charged them at a shockingly high price, not far off an ENO? A lot of the Echo stuff is good, I really do like it. I haven't heard of their 7075 CNC'd cranks breaking ever before, but I am surprised that you managed Inur! I think it's down the bad luck. I do wholeheartedly believe Echo to be a better brand than Monty in terms of quality, innovation, and value for money. Monty just still seem to be trying to live a little bit off its historical name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I haven't heard of their 7075 CNC'd cranks breaking ever before, but I am surprised that you managed Inur! I think it's down the bad luck.Here is Czar CNC Cranks after 5 months of riding.(Luckily not mine)My friend snapped them just in front of me.About monty. I don't really like how the frames snap but what can you expect from bashing a competition frame? I like my rear mod wheel a lot. In 6 months i have no dents, nothing. it's just scratched. Even though I hit it bad a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) That's a pretty damn harsh break. There is always the chance of there being a dodgy batch. But I think the Czar crank design may be weaker than the rest for obvious reasons. Edited April 13, 2009 by Sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Czar cranks are a copy of the Monty cranks which Alex praises so highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Thing is is that like a lot of stuff in Taiwan, they can make something look the same as something else, but actually make it badly and they can be a load weaker - unless you mean it's actually a 'rebadged' kinda thing from the same company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 2 of my friends ride monty 231 cranks for like 2 years or something). they still as new.my 221 ones are awesome as well. really strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Czar cranks are a copy of the Monty cranks which Alex praises so highly.Thing is is that like a lot of stuff in Taiwan, they can make something look the same as something else, but actually make it badly and they can be a load weaker - unless you mean it's actually a 'rebadged' kinda thing from the same company?The monty ones are forged, the czar ones are machined from billet - there is your strength difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I had monty cranks for a year or so and thought they were amazing, then I got middleburn super duper pro team TI fancyness cranks. If they made a 160 version, they'd be the best mod cranks ever. I think they make a 165 though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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