sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Kosovan faces deportation after jail term 19-year-old asylum seeker sent down after horror hammer attack on young teenager. A 13-year-old youth was attacked by an irate Kosovan with a hammer so severely that his fractured skull had to be put together "like a jigsaw puzzle", a court was told. The assault in Lovell Road, Bedford, last December was triggered when the teenager and some young friends were being noisy outside a corner shop. Living in the flat above was asylum seeker Baftit Toda, who was said to think he was being victimised. At Luton Crown Court last Friday, prosecutor Natalie Carter said Toda, 19, armed himself with the hammer and, with it hidden in his jacket, approached the group. "He grabbed one of them and said to him, 'Who hit my window? You want to f*** with me, I will kill you'." At that point the youth who was injured stood between the two. "The defendant took a tight grip of his clothing under the chin, took the hammer out of his jacket and struck him over the head about four times," said Mrs Carter. "He collapsed to the floor and one of his friends thought he might be dead. "Toda continued swinging the hammer towards the rest of the group and chased them when they ran away. "As a result of the attack the victim had a depressed fracture of the skull. In surgery it was put together like a jigsaw," she said. He was in hospital in Cambridge for 12 days, off school for a month, and now suffers headaches and is scarred, the court heard. Toda pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm with intent on December 2 last year. When questioned he denied the attack, and was bailed for identification evidence to be obtained. He failed to return when required and was not rearrested until June. The court heard that he had been charged on three previous occasions for possessing offensive weapons. One was a baseball bat studded with drawing pins, one was a shotgun without a certificate, and one was a gas-operated handgun, classed as an imitation firearm. Geoffrey Sullivan, defending, said: "He came here when he was 13 to escape the civil war. Living with the aura of violence has had a bad effect on him." Judge Geoffrey Breen said: "This was a savage attack on a much younger person and other young people could see the dreadful violence you used." Toda received an indeterminate sentence for public protection, but will be able to first apply for parole in two-and-a-half years' time. He will be on licence for life, but the Immigration Service said he will be deported on his release.found this while googling the guys name, thoughtme of you guys might find it interesting peace Edited December 3, 2008 by sideburns(dnt ask) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Very random thing to make a topic about ?I appreciate the blokes a vagina but couldn't it go in the Angry Thread or something?Surely it's not all "his" fault though, it's partly the governments fault for letting immigrants in. Most people who would emigrate to a better place will come from a shit hole, so why should England lower it's standards and jeopardize it's internal safety for some ass love from another minister. It's like saying "You've f**ked up your country, so come have another cushy little life here while we try and fix it. You can do what you like because our Prisons offer better food and shelter than the street you came from, and if you do do anything really bad we'll ship you back afterwards so you can have a shave and steal another passport and come back "I f**king hate this country, I'm moving to Belgium or Sweden.This is equally interesting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration - Reasons for emigrating are basically "Your countries shit, the others pretty good" Edited December 3, 2008 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think this happened to Sideburns, unfortunately.'Geoffrey Sullivan, defending, said: "He came here when he was 13 toescape the civil war. Living with the aura of violence has had a badeffect on him."'Why was he let in the country then? And why was he allowed to stay here? 'The murderer had a bad background but meh, we'll let him off'Rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) I think this happened to Sideburns, unfortunately.Oh, as in the topic starter "Sideburns" ?*After reading the other topic he made and the topic description it appears your right Fatty !Harsh beans mate, hope everything all clears up for you Edited December 3, 2008 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Oh, as in the topic starter "Sideburns" ?Dunno if that was sarcasm or not but it came across as you thought he was just posting a news story he found. And if you noticed the sub title, something similar happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dunno if that was sarcasm or not but it came across as you thought he was just posting a news story he found. And if you noticed the sub title, something similar happened.No Glen, I'm just a thick shit. Edited accordingly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jesus you took 4 hammer blows to the head and didn't die!!!You must be Chuck Norris' nephew or something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Not good dude. He sounds like a right twat.Hope he acts like a dick in prison, doesn't get parole, then gets deported!IMO theres far too many dangerous assilum seekers coming through this countries gates! If they dont get jobs in a month or two of being here, they should be sent back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 lets not turn this into a bitch fight ladies pleasepashley i started this topic because i was hoping it would spark some interesting thoughts on the decay of society in which to the extentan 18 year old man feels its fully justified to try and kill someone because of the noise they were making.i did post in the angry thread because this time three years ago i was just getting to addenbrookes hospital.maybe you are right i shouldn't have posted this as a topic and if the mods feel the same way the i'm with them if they close it matepeace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 If they dont get jobs in a month or two of being here, they should be sent back.That's the best idea I've heard for a while.You can't get into countries like New Zealand unless they need your "specified field of expertise".Glad you're alive after that though dude, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 lets not turn this into a bitch fight ladies pleasepashley i started this topic because i was hoping it would spark some interesting thoughts on the decay of society in which to the extentan 18 year old man feels its fully justified to try and kill someone because of the noise they were making.i did post in the angry thread because this time three years ago i was just getting to addenbrookes hospital.maybe you are right i shouldn't have posted this as a topic and if the mods feel the same way the i'm with them if they close it matepeacebtw this is the one that actually happened to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I f**king hate this country, I'm moving to Belgium or Sweden.This is equally interesting, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration - Reasons for emigrating are basically "Your countries shit, the others pretty good"simple push/pull factors. there's the shit countries push factors ie. war/famine/poverty/polical+governance and pull factors from better countries, generally more developed ones for their education, standard of living and welfare systems for example.but yes in simple terms your countries shit and others pretty good is about right..sideburns that news is f**ked up. sorry to hear you were once a victim of a similar kind.steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jesus you took 4 hammer blows to the head and didn't die!!!You must be Chuck Norris' nephew or something!lol you should see the scar mate! forgot to mention he used both sides of the hammer loli genuinly believe i got someone looking after me after that matepeace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 lol you should see the scar mate! forgot to mention he used both sides of the hammer loli genuinly believe i got someone looking after me after that matepeaceYour lucky dude.You could be in a much worse position right now. Imagine if that cock smashed all your face up, or hit your neck paralized you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Not gret pics but best i could do with a camera phone Your lucky dude.You could be in a much worse position right now. Imagine if that cock smashed all your face up, or hit your neck paralized you?I was apparently 3mm way from being permanantly brain damaged mate (not a nice thought)was thanks to my trusty billabong hat that i'm not Edited December 3, 2008 by sideburns(dnt ask) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) pashley i started this topic because i was hoping it would spark some interesting thoughts on the decay of society in which to the extentan 18 year old man feels its fully justified to try and kill someone because of the noise they were making.Yeah dude, I thought it was just some story you had found and randomly posted. The fact that it's you changes things quite considerably, so it happened 3 Years ago ? You all OK now then ?*I bet you wear your Billabong hat everywhere now Edited December 3, 2008 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Yeah dude, I thought it was just some story you had found and randomly posted. The fact that it's you changes things quite considerably, so it happened 3 Years ago ? You all OK now then ?*I bet you wear your Billabong hat everywhere now yeah im fine now apart from the odd headache now and then thankserm i actually bout another 10 of the same hat afterwards as the origonals soaked in blood peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 didnt think that actually happned to you so i ignored it first of all, but then reading through the topic i was like bothsides of the hammer aswell, what the hell he must have been seriously f**ked up!glad to see your actually alright and you are actually able to tell us what happned, hope he gets well intruly beat in prison, he deserves all he gets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Lad Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Smashing someone in the head repeatedly is ATTEMPTED MURDER not GBH. This wasn't something that happened in a split second in a fight or flight reaction. He wasn't defending himself from harm or neutralising an attacker. This man got up, went and picked up a hammer, left his flat, descended the stairs, made his way to the group, threatened 2 people, then grabbed one and hit them repeatedly over the head with a weapon. He had plenty of opportunites to not do this. Edited December 3, 2008 by Spider Lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Smashing someone in the head repeatedly is ATTEMPTED MURDER not GBH. This wasn't something that happened in a split second in a fight or flight reaction. He wasn't defending himself from harm or neutralising an attacker. This man got up, went and picked up a hammer, left his flat, descended the stairs, make his way to the group, threatened 2 people, then grabbed one and hit them repeatedly over the head with a weapon. He had plenty of opportunites to not do this.At first i thought the same, but was then informed that attempted murder and gbh with intent carry the same sentence and are basically the same thing.Still confusing thoughpeace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 dude, that is seriously heavy stuff....glad to hear you're okay after all of it ( even if it did happen a fair while ago ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Lad Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 At first i thought the same, but was then informed that attempted murder and gbh with intent carry the same sentence and are basically the same thing.Still confusing thoughpeaceI get it. I suppose you could be guilty of attempting to kill somebody without inflicting GBH on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideburns(dnt ask) Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I get it. I suppose you could be guilty of attempting to kill somebody without inflicting GBH on them.Lol your quicker than me, it took my mate a few hours to explain it to ma and he's a copper lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_malcolm Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 another tragic example of broken brittan.I think we should be like australia, japan, newzeland etc and your not aloud into our country unless your skilled in a certain area and can give something to the country.glad to hear your all ok though mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 what does it feel like to get ur head twatted with a hammer then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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