Gogz- Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) HI Is there any company's out there that make heft hand drive hubs etc for trials or even jump bikes.As far as i can see there isn't any thing out there. I have run my Bmx LHD for years now and because i go to the right it cuts out so much hassle with the drive train. sourly this will help with the smashing your mech hanger off problem.I for one would definitely run my trials bike LHD if I could. Edited December 2, 2008 by Gogz- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Unless your running mod or a modstock i doubt that you could take advantage, i've never heard of a 135mm LHD hub. You'd need horizontal dropouts as well to be able to tenion the chain without a hanger etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogz- Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) Yeah I know Id basically need a new bike lol Edited December 2, 2008 by Gogz- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) If you can find Tandem Cranks that take a 22T chainring and a BMX LHD hub you might be able to make something with stock parts on a modstock frame or a mod. Running a RH crank on the left will leave the pedal working loose on you all the time (Wrong thread direction). Presumably you're happy enough with the LHD freewheel you have on the BMX to trust it for trials? Finding cranks with a LH thread for a freewheel on the left crank may be possible if you want to try that. If you can get a LH thread crank you could run a fixed ECHO hub flipped over with the built in tensioner and you're sorted - big if on getting the cranks though... Edited December 2, 2008 by psycholist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Presumably you're happy enough with the LHD freewheel you have on the BMX to trust it for trials? Finding cranks with a LH thread for a freewheel on the left crank may be possible if you want to try that. If you can get a LH thread crank you could run a fixed ECHO hub flipped over with the built in tensioner and you're sorted - big if on getting the cranks though...LHD bmx usually uses a cassette hub not freewheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you locktited the pedal in (and kept checking it) you could use flipped cranks, with FFW. Difference is, the FFW's teeth for putting it on/taking it off would be facing at the cranks, so it would never come off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_m Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 PROFILE they make a singlespeed hub for 135mm axles and pretty positive that the pawls in the freehub can be reversed and ran as lhd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 PROFILE they make a singlespeed hub for 135mm axles and pretty positive that the pawls in the freehub can be reversed and ran as lhdI somehow doubt it will be suitable for a trials bike and it probably will only have 20 odd engagement points......Gogz don't bother, it's too much hassle and it probably will be shite anyways. Just put some decent brakes on the BMX and use it for trials haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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forteh Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Sorry but what the f**k is LHD?Left Hand Drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you locktited the pedal in (and kept checking it) you could use flipped cranks, with FFW. Difference is, the FFW's teeth for putting it on/taking it off would be facing at the cranks, so it would never come off.Loctiting won't help the pedal stay in at all. If you take a pedal off a bike that's got a lot of miles on it you'll see that the pedal axle has chewed it's way into the crank over time. This is because the thread direction causes the pedal to tighten as it's used (Due to a phenomenon known as thread precession). The forces involved in precession in pedals are much higher than loctite can resist. Machining a 45 degree taper after the thread on the pedal and a matching taper on the crank will potentially allow you to run a RH crank on the left. Of course the threading direction for a freewheel and the freewheeling direction will be wrong, and loctite definitely won't hold a freewheel with reversed pawls onto a crank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) A Echo 135mm fixed hub, Southpawl 1/8th freewheel and flipped Echo cranks? [edit] or light bmx cranks with 22t sprocket?It sounds like more effort that it's really worth. Or more money and time than it's worth.Maybe just a normal drivechain setup with a beefy tensioner and steel hanger? Edited December 2, 2008 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you locktited the pedal in (and kept checking it) you could use flipped cranks, with FFW. Difference is, the FFW's teeth for putting it on/taking it off would be facing at the cranks, so it would never come off.But when you pedal forwards nothing would happen?but you could ride backwards everywhere, if thats what you like.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 he's talking about flipping the freewhee; "i think " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 how would you ever get it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebelistic Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 It would be nice if there was a LHD option available.I should technically sidehop to the right and I just know I'm gonna go through loads of mech hangers when I try and learn.I like the idea of that Onza prototype frame with the chain stay lowered to protect the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Lad Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Has nobody thought to learn every move in both directions? You're only half the rider you could be otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Has nobody thought to learn every move in both directions? You're only half the rider you could be otherwise.Have you seen the new Pashley forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Lad Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Have you seen the new Pashley forks?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I guess not? They have a disc mount on the opposite side to normal, because of that, the mounts are on the front of the legs. I point was that Pashley don't seem to think so. In answering your original question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Lad Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think these Pashley forks are probably aimed more at street riders doing drop-out stalls who want to run a front disc and have the choice of which side they go to. Not strictly an issue in trials. I've never had an issue with which side my disc is on affecting the way I ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Has nobody thought to learn every move in both directions? You're only half the rider you could be otherwise.Lots of BMX'ers learn tricks both directions. Like 360's both directions, tailwhips both directions etc. Takes a hell of a lot a skill to learn tricks 'goofy' style though.I saw a BMX video the other day and the guy just rode along and bunnyhop tailwhiped one direction, and then he bunnyhop whipped back again frikkin amazing amount of skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 indeed, spinning oppy is savage at pace. Mainly because your feet are in the wrong place for scooping the bike around.but yes i hear the arguement. i try and make sure i don'tt have a 'dominmat' direction but it always ends up being one favoured side probably because im still sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Difference is, the FFW's teeth for putting it on/taking it off would be facing at the cranks, so it would never come off.how would you ever get it off? I covered that in my point.If you weren't arsed about getting it off, it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Just fit the freewheel with the holes for the extractor on the outside - it'll still freewheel the wrong way if it's screwed onto a RH crank run on the left of the bike. Edited December 3, 2008 by psycholist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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