MadManMike Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 I was at Life in Vauxhall on Friday and they had a guy playing a digital drum unit next to the DJ.The unit itself was a similar size to a CDJ1000, possibly slightly larger.It had button top assigned to drum sounds - for example the front of the unit made bongo sounds, the back made snare and hi hat sounds.I need one of these.It's not a Korg Kaoss Pad.Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Was it not a Korg Pad Kontrol?That's a big square with a small kaoss pad in the corner, then the main bit is I think 16 big pads that are assignable via MIDI.Have a picture: Edited November 30, 2008 by Bruce Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Got it!http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/roland-spd-s/66781Can be closed now unless people wanna discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 PadKontrol > what you found.It has a kaoss pad in it, and kaoss pads > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Why is it more than half the price?It doesn't look very robust - would it withstand drunken live drumming at events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doopdoopbedoop Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Seriously Mike, once you've used anything with a Kaoss pad on, you will love it... Although I'd be tempted to get the roland and a seperate kaoss pad to be fair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Was it not a Korg Pad Kontrol?That's a big square with a small kaoss pad in the corner, then the main bit is I think 16 big pads that are assignable via MIDI.Have a picture:Flipp has that, the little buttons light up when you tap them. I had no idea how to use it but i had great fun watching the squares light up when i touched them. He might be able to give you a better review of it than i can... but it looked sturdy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) I have used just a standalone Kaoss pad, it was pretty cool.The Korg just doesn't look like it can handle rapid drumming, or if someone was slightly heavy handed it looks like it wouldn't cope.EDIT: I must stress this is more for just straight drumming over the top, not really effects. I am getting a Pioneer DJM mixer that will handle effects (Though I try to avoid effects, you get carried away and ruin the mix) Edited November 30, 2008 by TheScientist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Are you looking for playing with sticks, or fingers?The PadKontrol is REALLY f**king swish. Assign the pads to any midi note you want - change between toggle or momentary switches - you can change the velocity curves... loads of nice little features. The XY pad isn't actually a Kaoss Pad - don't let them fool you. It's an XY pad - but you can assign any MIDI CC to each axis. (Pitchbend/mod/aftertouch... Not sure if you're for hardware/software preferance).Being that it's MIDI, it can act as a synth, drums, a sample deck... You can set the XY pad to be a global filter sweep, or channel specific.2 assignable knobs.For what it does - it's really f**king good. Designed for finger playing - not sticks.True - it doesn't look massively sturdy - hell, it doesn't FEEL sturdy - but I've given mine a good wacking, and it's yet to show any problems.There's the 16 pads - and you can push the "bank" button, and each pad turns into a bank. This means you can have 16 banks of 16 pads.Can change the midi channels, so you can even have specific pads for playing a synth, one for a smapler, and the rest for a drum kit all in one bank. You get 16 of those mother f**kers If you're looking to play with sticks - the Roland units are pretty sweet - though had you looked into the Alesis range?http://www.alesis.com/controlpad There's a "Performance" pad, too - though that's purely for audio. Bit harder to navigate - MIDI is just so much easier to assign new voices to. Just hook it up into whatever sampler FL has.There's a bunch of others out there - but I've got an early morning tomorrow.I'll add you to MSN (assuming your address isn't kept private). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the info dude, it all seems a little over the top that's all - I appreciate you can do tons of stuff with it, but all I really want is to do a little tribal drumming over the top of DJ sets.Not with sticks either, we're talking in the middle of a tune just bust out a minute or two's drumming over the top then mixing into another track Youtube Video -> Original Video This kind of thing but over the top of a track Looking at the Korg, it would appear that the sounds are not inside the pad, they are on a laptop or PC?If so, it's out of the game instantly - this needs to be a standalone unit, not midi controller.EDIT: Also, the buttons on the Korg appear to be really small, not so good for live drumming - especially if you're slightly drunk Edited November 30, 2008 by TheScientist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Fair enough... I'm sure it'll suit you more - but just know that the padkontrol can do the just as easily - and you've also got the toys to play with, even if you don't use them.Oh... And er.... One more thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 That's what I'm trying to determine - why is the Roland more expensive?Is it more dedicated to drumming rather than sampling / midi control?The only turnoffs for me with the Korg is the small buttons - it seems like you're only meant to tap them with one finger rather than really get into and do a live performance, and the fact it appears you have to connect it to a PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 It's strange as the korg pad has loads of cool stuff in it, notably the XY pad. I think it can work on its own though. The roland could cost more because it's more robust. That can't be the only reason though. Might be loaded with samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Might be loaded with samples.No doubt it'll be more robust... It's a Roland... They're bombproof I'd place most my money on the above, though.Roland samples are always nice (just look at the 808 and 909) If you do get it - fancy letting us know why it's more costly?Quite interested, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 After asking around it appears that the Korg is more suited to studio work - the Roland seems to be all about the hectic performance.I'm 80% sure I'm gonna go for the Roland to be honest, unless anyone comes up with a really good point in favour of the Korg.Once I get my xmas bonus I'll let you know what the Roly is like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ. Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 i have a yamaha dd 55 pad set and love it you can run it on midi, has snare and bass drum pedl if you want them and you can do lots of cool stuff with it http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/shop/view_p...product=yamdd55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 With all due respect mate, they aren't professional tools They are home user stuff - the sound quality isn't great and as far as I know you can't assign samples to each "button" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think I've struck gold - whilst looking at the SPD-S on YouTube I found the HandSonic. The HandSonic appears to be EXACTLY what I'm after.£325 seems pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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