sapu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 so im thinking to go chris king rear instead of free wheel becoaus e i got borred of always haveing an issue with them. 2 of my mates did the same and nyhe diference is big in my oppiniun1 shorter bb=stiferck weights only a bit more then a fixed hub(bt in my case)les weight on the front since you have only a screw on cogthe only desavantage i think is the price.please tell me what do you thinkj about the ck rear hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 If you get a 'good' one it will be excellent.If you get a 'bad' one it will be shite, in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Its well weird when people say they get a 'bad' one. Ok it skips a bit when you first get it, but what I did was, instead of going hopping mad straight off the bat, I used it on my free ride bike and got a shite load of miles through it. Thats the way forward in my opinion.The pros of a CK is that it has amazing/quick 'pick up'. light, smooth, easily serviced and ok it doesnt really matter, but I think it sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapu Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 ill get a new one (classic full heavy duty) my mate,s is 5 years old and looks inside like new.and the other one just bought it (a new single speed ) and they bouth feel so responsive...and the sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Cons? The lube you get it the hub is too thick. So as soon as you get it, flush it all out with wd40/gt85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Nooo, don't flush it out straight away! They come with the thick grease to bed it in! Just ride around for quite a while, build up some miles on it. I'd even put it on a 'normal' bike and just ride around for a while. That'd let it all bed in, THEN clean it all out with WD40, get it spotless, then use some Wet lubricant bike stuff on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Nooo, don't flush it out straight away! They come with the thick grease to bed it in! Just ride around for quite a while, build up some miles on it. I'd even put it on a 'normal' bike and just ride around for a while. That'd let it all bed in, THEN clean it all out with WD40, get it spotless, then use some Wet lubricant bike stuff on it. Edited November 25, 2008 by max-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's better. By all means flush it out straight away if you don't like your teeth...haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's better. By all means flush it out straight away if you don't like your teeth...haha.Mine aint never skipped and my teeth are fine thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) I don't think there's such thing as 'good' and 'bad' king hubs. I think there's people who abuse them don't take care of their hub. The king I have was used for 2.5 years on a freeride bike before I got it, and I've been riding it for 2 solid years. I broke an axle back in august, but that's an awfully long time for any axle to last. I've had very few skips with it in the last 2 years, probably 8 or so. The few skips that I have had have been when the axle/hub was loose.I also had a bmx one with my DOB bike, only rode it for a little under a month, but it too was a great hub. It was brand new, I just rode it with the regular lube, it leaks out pretty quickly (supposed to during break in period), so I wouldn't worry about it.Highly recommended Edited November 26, 2008 by Jason222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Just going on my experience... And to quote Andrew Tonkery: "Kings have lemons..I've had 3-4-5? king hubs, one of them was just like this- it never worked, even after sending it to king for an overhaul...it was an ISO w/trials internals, hd axle, steel drivesheell, funbolts...skipped all the time, was a huge piece of trash.Every other one has been fine, current one is a classic w/aluminum driveshell- normal axel (foley), just run of the mill cross country...its over 5 years old, I've owned it the whole time and I've neven even touched it- never opened it up to lube it or anything. It has never skipped or come loose since it came out of the box"Didn't matter what I did to my hub, it skipped continuously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) trials internalsStiffer spring? Edited November 27, 2008 by Mark King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Stiffer spring?Is Chris a relative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) He's my brother! Edited November 27, 2008 by Mark King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) Stiffer spring?I believe CK used to do a trials specific spring before they decided trials was totally uncool and stopped warrantieing any trials abused hubs... Edited November 27, 2008 by Shaun H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doopdoopbedoop Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I used to ride with a guy called Chris King, nothing to do with the hubs, but he had one... Never seemed to have a problem with it if I remember rightly - this was a good 4/5 years ago though.Most useless reply? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Get it, run it in, take it apart, stretch the spring, give it a small amount of finishline/wd40 mix. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I bought mine used off of ebay 2 years ago(classis 32h w/ QR). Laced it to a dx32 and have had good luck with it. I know people say they skip, but I have never really had problems. I think I had mine miss once. I took it apart, cleaned up the ring drive and it has treated me well. Best part of owning one is the sound. Nothing compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) If you get a 'good' one it will be excellent.If you get a 'bad' one it will be shite, in my experience.That's spot on. I know so many people who have had endless problems with their King right from the very beginning. I've so far had 2 Kings, one was new and it was fairly good, the other one was bought second hand, and at a guess is now at least 5 years old. It hasn't skipped once, is extremely loud and, well, perfect. My advice would be to get a second hand hub which you know hasn't given the previous owner any problems. Buying new isn't the best way out with these hubs.edit: Try and get one off an XC rider. Edited November 28, 2008 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Get it, run it in, take it apart, stretch the spring, give it a small amount of finishline/wd40 mix. Done.Please don't do this. Unless you are a machine and can stretch the spring perfectly you'll end up with a skipping hub. When the spring is stretched it deforms when compressed and is likely to push its way past the drive ring and make your hub not engage.I've had a fair few kings from new and so have my mates, none of them have skipped badly (unless it was something stupid that I did myself. Like stretch the spring). They do need a bit of bedding in time but there's no reason why you can't ride the hub for trials straight out the box. The key thing is, is to make sure the bearings are tight after every ride. Loose bearings are the main cause of kings skipping. What tends to happen is people get their king put it on the bike and leave it so when the bearings wear in there will be play in the hub.Remember they are Chris King Precision Components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) I honestly think that the Kings with problems are ones that havn't been properly bedded in and havn't had the thick lube taken out and cleaned the internals.Oh and Anal, I've stretched the spring in mine (a silly ammount) it was about 4 or 5 inches in length.It hasn't skipped in the time I've had it (with the spring stretched). It did although, skip when it wasn't stretched, a lot. Edited November 28, 2008 by Bob Fossil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I'd have to say you are pretty lucky then. Phil Williams did the same thing and stretched his spring and it was really loud and great for a year, then one day I serviced his king for him and no matter what way the spring went in his hub was skipping. I personally don't think stretching the spring is worth the risk though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Yeah I do agree it isn't worth the risk.I've done it to 3 kings now aswell, all been fine I do think that if you've tried everything to stop your king from skipping, that stretching the spring slightly can solve the problem.I only did mine 'cause I liked the sound at the time and I just kinda got carried away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Well you are a much better spring stretcher then me. ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I honestly think that the Kings with problems are ones that havn't been properly bedded in and havn't had the thick lube taken out and cleaned the internals.Mine was run in, cleaned regularly, had a mix of Tri-Flow/WD40 in there, bearings were kept tight from day 1, everything and more that it needs.Still went to shit, no matter what myself or King did to it, it still skipped. You can argue about this till the cows come home, but what myself, Inur and AndyT (amongst others) have experienced is 100% not down to poor maintainance/misuse/whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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