"kamel Slow Motion" Little Video.

[mixmaker]

Hi,

this is experimental not big video.

Slow motion here has 300 fps

hope you'll like it.

Your comments welcome!)

http://tv.isg.si/site/filebrowser/mixmaker

slow3.avi

[manuel]

I'm disappointed - If Im not mistaken its not actually shot at 300fps ? just edited slyly .... there is a big difference. still looks pretty cool though - just loads of fuzz around the fast moving parts.

[aener]

Real 300fps would also be really crisp, and much smoother

[Henrik Y]

It seems to be more then 60fps compared to my 60fps clips. But the blur is a little annoying.

[mixmaker]

ok - let me explane to you

original video was made with 50 fps with simple HD camera sony HDR-HC7e

then, it was deinterlace with QS deintartlace

then, frame rate was up with MSU_FRC (plugin for avisynth, avisynth - works under virtual dub) to 300 fps

then - video with 300 fps was compressed by DivX 60 fps.

because 300 fps - is very big file and i gess that your computers also as my - couldn't play such file.

thats why some blur in video

now i'm workin about it - how to delete blur.

[Greetings]

Doesn't your camera have a 120fps setting?

[mixmaker]

no, it hasn't as I know.

correct me, if it wrong?

[Greetings]

It might, the HC3 and HC5 had it.

[Henrik Y]

Ok, then if you filmed with 50fps then you only can decrees it. You wont get more flow in the slow motion because a program converts it to 300fps. Because then it will show the same frame 6 times and you wont see any difference.

The more fps the slower you can play it. The reason with many fps like 300 is that you take those 300fps and play them at normal speed 25fps. Then the 1s(300fps) will take (300/25=12) 12s to play. So what you do in 1s will be played over 12s with the same smoothness as a normal clip recorded and played in 25fps.

So with 50fps you want be able do slow it more then half if it should run smoothly.

[manuel]

Because then it will show the same frame 6 times and you wont see any difference.

that just isn't true ... Fancy editing programs do some clever shit to make some intermediate frames that are completely unique

Edited November 20, 2008 by manuel

[mixmaker]

Ok, then if you filmed with 50fps then you only can decrees it. You wont get more flow in the slow motion because a program converts it to 300fps. Because then it will show the same frame 6 times and you wont see any difference.

The more fps the slower you can play it. The reason with many fps like 300 is that you take those 300fps and play them at normal speed 25fps. Then the 1s(300fps) will take (300/25=12) 12s to play. So what you do in 1s will be played over 12s with the same smoothness as a normal clip recorded and played in 25fps.

So with 50fps you want be able do slow it more then half if it should run smoothly.

If you are right - can you show me exsample of such video very slow and very smooth without strobbing?

Inur, -i cant find such settings in my camera, - Doyou know where it "turn on" -???

Edited November 20, 2008 by mixmaker

[Henrik Y]

If you are right - can you show me exsample of such video very slow and very smooth without strobbing?

Manuel: You may be right, computer programs can do a lot. But theoretically it shows the same frame.

My camera can only make 15, 30 or 60fps

And when I half the speed on 60fps it's about the same as 30fps. If I half the the 30fps you can see it "strobbing" and the 60fps will strobb the same if halfed two times.

Example:

At 2:55 it's filmed in 30fps and run at half speed(15fps)

The first jump over the pool is filmed in 60fps and is run at half speed(30 fps)

Conversions between fps could also be the explanation of the blurring in your clip. Two frames sharing on slot may go together and get blurry, I don't know just a guessing.

Edited November 20, 2008 by Henrik Y

[mixmaker]

MAte, - did you make your video with photocamera or camcoder?

Edited November 22, 2008 by mixmaker

[Henrik Y]

MAte, - did you make your video with photocamera or camcoder?

I made it with a photocamera, Canon PowerShot A560.

Edited November 22, 2008 by Henrik Y

[mixmaker]

thats why you can make good slowly you madeprogressive vide, as for me -my video was interlaced, forme is more difficult to make slow motion

[Krisboats]

that just isn't true ... Fancy editing programs do some clever shit to make some intermediate frames that are completely unique

Unfortunately though that ended up in a load of distorted crap around anything that moved.

I take it this was the kind of thing you were going for? As far as i was aware, you can use a program to add maybe 1-2 frames extra in between frames you shot, but anything more than that lacks quality and clarity. This kind of thing must be shot faster at the time of filming. You can't add significant amounts of information that wasn't there.

[mixmaker]

two days ago I find "real viz retimer", programmwas usedin many holywood films. It generate frames with morphing neighbour frames and append into video. - now i', learning this programm, and after that I try to show you how it do)