How To Save Weight On A Frame?

[Dan S]

Dan S...i think your mate is trying to tell you something

Like what? That he turns horny when sees me?

I don't think so.....He don't like me....) Though sometimes he shouts in the streets that he can do whatever he wants because he is gay)

You really need to see some pics of how gay all our riders are(being trull straight)

Edited November 5, 2008 by Dan S

[grant_hundley]

I know im gonna get raped for saying this but come on you dont need to save weight ive rode a weight weenie bike and they just dont feel right you need the strengh and decent products not the need to drill, cut, use sellotape as rim tape etc etc as longs as it rides nice

tris

i guess you need the extra strength to do those massive stair gaps you do

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=127568

[sstein]

i guess you need the extra strength to do those massive stair gaps you do

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=127568

Got to agree here (sorry tristan), no offence meant by this but surely you can't really say how well a bike rides when you can't even get the bike you are riding working properly, I mean come on, when I rode with you your forks almost fell out by the end of the day.

[Krisboats]

Be a real man and use an angle grinder

I did my headtube and seatstays on the rex with a grinder and it looks very neat. I did also think about getting some hardcore sanding equipment and sanding my tubes down a fair bit to remove excess weight from the top of the downtube and the rear traingle etc. i figured the frames 2,500kg so the tubes must be like 20mm thick

Removing paint and shining up to silver without applying lacquer could reduce a few hundred grams as well. Water is 1 kg a litre so if you've got a 500ml layer of primer, a 500ml layer of top coat and some lacquer on top then by removing it you could effectively save 600-1300grams (really rough guesswork).

Drill any gussets, remove any disc tabs if you don't use them, cut knobbles off tyres (tell them they fell off )

Tried a light bottom bracket by any chance?

[forteh]

Biggest single and cheapest weight saving I used was a drilled DX32 and single ply rear tyre - 650g off the back wheel alone!

Titanium BB (if you can find/afford a decent enough one) and pedal axles are another big saving, lock on grips are heavy, as are disk brakes.

My bike is hovering around the 9kg mark (having put heavier forks and tyres on) and thats without drilling anything - lightweight components is where the saving really comes unless your frame is heavy to start with.

I would f**k the front tyre off and just run your own until schwalbe want to give you a front tyre worth using

[JonMack]

Try it....it is 3 times lighter than the sellotape)

And don't be afraid to look gay)

So if I put a silk rim tape on my mod it would weigh 1g per wheel instead of 3g, holy shit, better do it right away!

[eskimo]

So if I put a silk rim tape on my mod it would weigh 1g per wheel instead of 3g, holy shit, better do it right away!

You forgot about the drilling. It will save another .2 gram if you drill it.

On a serious note it all adds up.

[Dan S]

Damn......took mine out of the rim.....it is 10 gramms.......That's too much!!!!!

Gotta find a way to make it lighter)

[lankyri]

stick a front vee on instead of a disk swap to a pro 3 (non disk) mavic rims

[JonMack]

Seriously though, my selotape rim tapes are 3g each.

[Dan S]

Seriously though, my selotape rim tapes are 3g each.

my tame isn't really silk...just cloth.

But now i'm off to buy some pink silk cloth to make a tape)

[onzatrip]

Got to agree here (sorry tristan), no offence meant by this but surely you can't really say how well a bike rides when you can't even get the bike you are riding working properly, I mean come on, when I rode with you your forks almost fell out by the end of the day.

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

Edited November 6, 2008 by Trisandhisbt

[Ben John-Hynes]

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

Anyone else understand any of that?

No? Me either!

[grant_hundley]

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

and breath......

[sstein]

Anyone else understand any of that?

No? Me either!

lol

[Rich Pearson]

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

Before you report other people you'd do well to take a look at your own approach to the forum, i.e. don't type responses whilst having a fit.

Rich

[forteh]

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

My bike wasnt even that light when you rode it, has lost another 1500g since then

[sstein]

just cos i broke the star nut like a day before the ride couldnt get it fixed in time and ive rode a weight weenie bike (the triton on here rode at brum) and wouldnt ride my bike with out it working and just becuse grant cant get over himself which he realy needs to just because a deal went wrong with chris which has bin done btw as long ass im happy with my bike which isnt finshed until like end of next month noone can anything about my bike plus the forks that where on the bike was the forks that the bike was brought with . which the bike was brought off nick the zhi which he was selling thats what the bike is

Sorry man. Really wasn't trying to piss you off or seem mean, just saying that you don't really have a comparison strength wise of what a bike is like when you seem happy riding a bike that is falling apart.

[JonMack]

Just because I broke the star nut like a day before the ride, couldn't get it fixed in time, have ridden a weight weenie bike (the Triton on here which I rode at Birmingham), wouldn't ride my bike without it working, and because Grant can't get over himself (which he really needs to). Just because a deal went wrong with Chris (which has been done by the way). As long as I'm happy with my bike (which isn't finshed until like end of next month) no one can say anything. Plus the forks that were on the bike were the forks that the bike came with. The bike was brought off Nick (the Zhi that he was selling, that's what the bike is).

So what you're saying is you bought a bike off Nick (the Zhi), and the star nut broke and you couldn't get it fixed in time? Why did you feel the need to include all the other irrelevant nonsensical shit, such as the fact Grant should get over himself, and you rode a light bike in Birmingham?

[Mat Smith!]

Sellotape works fine, and doesn't cost as much as silk.

I'd also imagine that silk rim tape would give other riders the wrong impression.

So does rim tape/electrical tape. seriously using sellotape saves 2g or something, that really is stupid, nearly as bad as cutting nobbles off but meh.

Mat

[Muel]

Saved me 75g, then I cut the knobbles and saved another 130g.

I haven't gone that far on the Kot though, the tyres with half the knobbles missing just look gay.

[Luke Rainbird]

To be fair, I'd rather just whack in a bit of sellotape/electrical tape that I'm likely to have kicking about in a drawer somewhere than hand over £3 for a little bit of coloured plastic or whatever

[forteh]

To be fair, I'd rather just whack in a bit of sellotape/electrical tape that I'm likely to have kicking about in a drawer somewhere than hand over £3 for a little bit of coloured plastic or whatever

Tryall rim tape is over 50g for 26", selotape split after a while and holed the tube, elecatrical tape is best solution

[Stan Shaw]

Using sellotape can save about 80g. Plastic rims tapes weigh about 90grams a pair I think.

Wheels is usually the best place to start. Light-ish tyres. Light front tube, rim tapes and rims.

Saving weight on the frame is good, but time consuming and sometimes risky. Best places are usually Headtube, BB and remove any un-wanted cable guides and disc mounts.

Foam grips usually should save about 100grams for you, as your using lock-ons

[Nick Manning]

Using sellotape can save about 80g. Plastic rims tapes weigh about 90grams a pair I think.

Wheels is usually the best place to start. Light-ish tyres. Light front tube, rim tapes and rims.

Saving weight on the frame is good, but time consuming and sometimes risky. Best places are usually Headtube, BB and remove any un-wanted cable guides and disc mounts.

Foam grips usually should save about 100grams for you, as your using lock-ons

Cheers Stan, I like lock ons because they don't slip when they get wet. I would assume foam grips would slip, but I've not used them so I wouldn't know.

I think I will cut the disc tab and un-used cables guides off, but I think that will be about it with the frame, don't feel to confident doing anything else.

I'm also gonna change the front tyre to a nobby nic 26x2.25 which weighs 570g.