CC12345678910 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'm after after a new BB after I snapped the old oneOption 1 http://trials-uk.co.uk/product.aspx?productid=67Option 2 http://tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?produc...p;category_id=2I'm after strong but around 300g if possible.BTW I snapped this one http://trials-uk.co.uk/product.aspx?productid=310 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 The Trialtech in M12 is nice and strong at a middle sort of weight, if you want something super tough then have a look at the Truvativ Gigapipe and the SKF BFR-600 - both much stronger than the Meta but a bit heavier than the Trialtech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Id go for a truvatic gigapipe...ive got one and its awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I don't want to have to buy that truvativ tool because i've got a standard one already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I don't want to have to buy that truvativ tool because i've got a standard one already.yeh thats a bit annoying...could just take it to your LBS and get them to do it...mine did it for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I doubt that will happen @ my LBS. Which BB? Trialtech or KO? I want to get it ordered for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Trialtech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Trialtech. 100% unbiased opinion...lol...just quoted you and saw what you sneaked in in white....was just about to say that.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 ....but I am not a partisan........ha, ha, ha..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I've just had a chat with Dave@Trialtech and the Trialtech BB's now all come with a steel stopper ring between the axle and the crank arm which means it won't deform and crush like so many other brands which use soft aluminium ones.So yeah, Trialtech all the way for more reasons than just because!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I've just had a chat with Dave@Trialtech and the Trialtech BB's now all come with a steel stopper ring between the axle and the crank arm which means it won't deform and crush like so many other brands which use soft aluminium ones.So yeah, Trialtech all the way for more reasons than just because!!So I should go for the KO then... Trialtech it is!!Topic can be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 ....but I am not a partisan........ha, ha, ha.....Moe bb's are bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H! Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Moe bb's are bollocks.yea they are i snapped mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Moe bb's are bollocks.FIRST BB *cough* Meta *cough* Trialstech *cough*. I suggest you not try any of those lest you be sorely dissapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 That may be the case on the face of things but Trialtech have improved on the other available BB's by providing both steel rings instead of the gash aluminium ones and also the option of a thicker (stronger) axle at no extra cost. Win, win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) That may be the case on the face of things but Trialtech have improved on the other available BB's by providing both steel rings instead of the gash aluminium ones and also the option of a thicker (stronger) axle at no extra cost. Win, win.For those that have had the ring be an issue, cool.There are only X number of options of spindles from the manufacturer. I am going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume we all checked the box that was for selecting the hardest/best spindle material.Now we are down to size (easy on the jokes....ha, ha, ha). If you are going to run a BB that is under 300g and you are a basher/street rider.... I might suggest a larger size spindle. For those actually riding trials with any degree of deftness, the success of the BBs from First (which pretty much covers Meta, MOE, Trialtech and certain ones from Echo) has been very good. Edited October 9, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 For those that have had the ring be an issue, cool.Yup .Can I quickly ask why, in the above picture, does the stopper ring (or crank-stop) not extend into the flute of the spline at all? I thought the ISIS standard accommodated for this by ensuring that the ring goes about half way along the radiused end section of the flute. From the looks of the Moe BB it will royally rape your cranks the first time you put them on making them as saggy as a saggy thing.An alternative to this design is the use of a separate pressed-on crank-stop. If the pressed-on shoulder configuration is used for the male crank-stop then the 3.000mm sweep-out dimension refers to the pressed-on crank stop rather than the stop shoulder integrally formed with the spindle. This allows the flute terminating sweep-out to extend along a greater distance, thus decreasing the stress concentration present at the flute termination and possibly improving workability. Figure 1 illustrates an example of this alternative configuration.Figure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) Yup .Can I quickly ask why, in the above picture, does the stopper ring (or crank-stop) not extend into the flute of the spline at all? I thought the ISIS standard accommodated for this by ensuring that the ring goes about half way along the radiused end section of the flute. From the looks of the Moe BB it will royally rape your cranks the first time you put them on making them as saggy as a saggy thing.Figure 1Hats off, your a good hatchet guy.Might I suggest that we recall FSA, MONTY and and few other brands for this alleged mass ruining of cranks because the ring does not extend over rounded end of spline. Oh yeah....forgot.... its because it is a non issue. Edited October 9, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 My FSAs had that stopper that stopped the cranks from just mashing onto the end of the splines, I'm pretty sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Oh yeah....forgot.... its because it is a non issue.Which quickly becomes an issue the second you try and put your now saggy cranks on a new BB and they creak like buggery. For something that would be so easy to avoid at the design stage. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) My FSAs had that stopper that stopped the cranks from just mashing onto the end of the splines, I'm pretty sure?Yes, of course they did. Some of the models have the ring begin at the end of the spline and some before the end of the spline. I agree, too far back and it would be useless. However, since the leading edge cranks (specially soft ones made from 6061) that goes toward ring/stopper..... the thin corners quickly mold themselves to the end of the spline upon first installation.Fascinating discussion we are having on an issue that is....well, as stated above....a non issue. Theoretical failures of others are an interesting way to market. Edited October 9, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 On the plus side, at least Dave wasn't dropping the classic "But are they safe?" line that certain others have used in the past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Theoretical failures of others are an interesting way to market.Tim, there's only one person here who's marketing anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 On the plus side, at least Dave wasn't dropping the classic "But are they safe?" line that certain others have used in the past...No, it was your cranks will be mangled if you use a MOE BB. And that differs how?Touche'! ha, ha, ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Dave was raising an issue he's had in the past. That is different to a rival company insinuating that a product is dangerous to use. Cranks that allegedly get mangled aren't quite the same as suggesting that a part could injure you if you run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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