grant_hundley Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 i firstly applied / / / kinda lines along the rim... very lightly... didnt workwashed it all off then i span my wheel and held ithe wax against the rim lightly... didnt workdid both of those again but put more ondidnt work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-baby158 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 you can beat a good old old grid & a gind its called a "grind" He was taking the piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarron on a echo lite 08 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 a grind ther are so much better than tar aarron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-baby158 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Corr all the topics on GRID and tar should be closed .I cant blev they havn't yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 you can beat a good old old grid & a gind its called a "grind" you clearly haven't heard of sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Yea, i know of this, but the skateboard has a lower coeficient of friction than a brake pad, so where the wax helps the skateboard to slide, in the same way it helps to prevent the brake pads from sliding/slipping.Lol. Sorry to say this, but I'm studying engineering. I understand co-efficients of friction, F=UR, inertia, etc. etc. And unless you can explain it without using long words to contradict yourself in the hope no-one else understands, I remain sceptical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogz- Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I have used the crayon from puncture kit on my rims before and it worked well . I have also used GT85 on my BMX rim's before and it maid it really good (no joke) I haven't got any idea how and y it did but it did lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotropolis Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Lol. Sorry to say this, but I'm studying engineering. I understand co-efficients of friction, F=UR, inertia, etc. etc. And unless you can explain it without using long words to contradict yourself in the hope no-one else understands, I remain sceptical I also study engineering, but i dont realy know how to explain it, it just works for me, thats all i can say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 make a video of it working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 make a video of it working?better still.. make a video of it Not working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 but then i could just not pull on the brake to make it look like it dont work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 but then i could just not pull on the brake to make it look like it dont work....Click me, Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 he may well have been serious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Yea, i know of this, but the skateboard has a lower coeficient of friction than a brake pad, so where the wax helps the skateboard to slide, in the same way it helps to prevent the brake pads from sliding/slipping.That does not quite work. Wax is a smooth slippery subsatance and so the coefficient of friction will be less between the pads and the braking surface than if it was not there. Think about it in the most basic physics terms, a sticky pad on a rough surface will have more grip than a sticky pad on a smooth slippery surface like wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiLLz Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) I used to use tar with Onza Koolstop pads which wasn't too bad then I got Plazmatic CRM pads and ground my rim only a light grind and that worked perfectly, the bite and hold were a lot better than I thought but after a days ride the bite and hold wore off so I think maybe I'll use tar with it as well. Or just get myself some blue, green or brown Koxx Bloxx Edited October 8, 2008 by SkiLLz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotropolis Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 That does not quite work. Wax is a smooth slippery subsatance and so the coefficient of friction will be less between the pads and the braking surface than if it was not there. Think about it in the most basic physics terms, a sticky pad on a rough surface will have more grip than a sticky pad on a smooth slippery surface like wax.Well then clearly you should try it for yourself because, like ive said already, it works for me pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I wouldn't try candle wax.I can see how it might make it grippierI can also see how it might make it slippier.However my brake works well enough as it is, so there's no point taking a risk to improve it if it doesn't need improving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Seriously, candle wax...People use grinds for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotropolis Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Seriously, candle wax...People use grinds for a reason.You clearly havn't tried it then, because it works quite well. I know its not as good as a grind, but its a quick and cheap option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yes, wax is well known for it's brake enhancing properties.You clearly haven't tried a grind, because if you had, you wouldn't be looking for alternatives to tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotropolis Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yes, wax is well known for it's brake enhancing properties.You clearly haven't tried a grind, because if you had, you wouldn't be looking for alternatives to tar.I've only just got back into trials, and havnt got round to getting my rims ground yet and ive lost my tar. This is the only real reason why im curently using candle wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totally steaming!! Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think you need to put some more effort into your posts. Sorry but it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 You clearly havn't tried it thenbut i have. and it doesnt work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Well then clearly you should try it for yourself because, like ive said already, it works for me pretty well.I have no need to I use rock blues on a ground rim with tar, I never have any brake slip and even in the rain I get a great brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitters Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (edited) Something to consider before you go rubbing a candle all over everything - based on a generic suggestion - is that there are as many different kinds and qualities of waxes as there are brake pads. Some may work better than others, but only under the right conditions. There are tacky waxes that could work, but I'd personally go with a grind, as it's just a better all around solution that you don't have to reapply everytime you want to go riding. Just my opinion though. You can try some snot if the candle doesn't do it for you Edited October 9, 2008 by Tappets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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