hazr27 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 a "echo control" or a "czar Ivan"?I'm thinking of getting a new fame but I'm not to sure which one to get, and what the differences are? which would you prefer, or what would you recommend?cool, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 high bb vs low bb war ahoy... long or short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomm hale Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 ControlThis kid knows his stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Older Czar Ivan. One of the sickest frames ever made for a stock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samtrials Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I like the look of the czar more personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey vajda Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 i would prefer czar ivan f**k ha. wanted that bike since for ever.... looks like a koxx xtp but sweet with a high bb, would ride one in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Neither frame is very good. I'd go with the control though.. +60 bb is a bit much on the czar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannoo Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 But Jason.. Ofcourse you dont like any of them, you are a GU man just like I amBut I'd choose the echo aswell. Looks like a decent frame Good luck in you choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 short control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Both are pretty strong, the Czar being stiffer, allot stiffer. I'd go Control, just as it's more an all round bike compared to the pogo stick style as many would put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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