Is It Me Or The Bike?

[zoster]

Hi!

i have a new setup for my 24" and i can't get used to bunnyhop right with it.

My current geo is the same as the inspired (WB 1040, bb+35, CS385) but has a slacker headangle (unfortunatelly, but that's mielec..). ->blue-grey bike

My previos setup had a geo around WB 1010, bb+15 CS, 372. -> dark green bike

I could bunnyhop a lot easier with that bike.

My question is: is it the geo of the frame (i'm referring to the bb rise especially)?

is it the bb to bars difference of height (should i rise my handlebars)?

is it just me not getting used to it ? i did though practice to get bunnyhops right again but couldn't manage to get to the point where i'm confortable with them. i also tried bunnyhopping on the bike of a friend and felt better (he has a similar geo to my previous bike).

another thing i noticed about the new setup is that the sweetspot of manuals is more concentrated.. again, is this bb height or bar height influence?

any input would be greatly appreciated!

thanks mates!

zoster

Edited September 20, 2008 by zoster

[Greetings]

Your new bike has longer chainstays and longer wheelbase. This will make bunnyhops more difficult.

High bb's making bunnyhops impossible is a popular misconception. Riders think so because it's considerably more difficult to bunnyhop something with +60 rise than ie. a Pitbull short. This is not because of the frame but the stem/bar combo riders use in their +60 bikes. If you ran the same stem on a GU TP and a Pitbull S, I guarantee you could bunnyhop the TP more easily.

[eskimo]

I can bunny to manual my high bb frame fine, but i have a Echo Team stem. Like what Inur says is right.

But yeah get another stem. Your going to have to have a play. Them longer chainstays will make things move slower but the bike should sit nicely in a manual. A steep not to long stem should sort stuff out. But you don't really want to much reach on the stem. The slacker headangle will also come into play though. I found the Try-All NUC stem to be a good all round stem. That might suit well, but some added spacers underneath should also counter the 385mm chainstays better.

But that's my personal preference.

[edit]

You've just uploaded the pics so that throws out what i just said about the Try-All stem. You say concentrated... You mean smaller i'm guessing?

If that's the case it sounds like your standing to straight above the wheel. Try moving them bars back towards you a bit. Are you a short person too?

The balance point should get larger the more you bring the bars back into yourself. If it doesn't then it's probably your technique.

Edited September 20, 2008 by eskimo

[zoster]

[edit]

You've just uploaded the pics so that throws out what i just said about the Try-All stem. You say concentrated... You mean smaller i'm guessing?

If that's the case it sounds like your standing to straight above the wheel. Try moving them bars back towards you a bit. Are you a short person too?

The balance point should get larger the more you bring the bars back into yourself. If it doesn't then it's probably your technique.

thaks for the replys!

by "concentrated" i mean smaller AND more stable

by moving the bars backwards you mean leaning them back or getting a shorter stem?

yes, i am quite short : ) 1,70m (5.6ft)

EDIT:

i leaned the bars backwards so that the logo faces forwards, and i must say it helped quite much on manuals. I rode a lot more confident. Bunnyhops still feel pretty weird but it helped a bit there also. (unfortunatelly my left hand slipped on a gap and now i must sit sideways on chairs.. but anyways..)

Edited September 20, 2008 by zoster