Heatsink Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hi,It's a time for new arrivals Available to buy here:http://www.heatsinkbikes.com/?p=veeadaptersAnd through all HeatsinkBikes dealers around the world.The only adapters for 4 bolt frames to feature FOUR mounting positions each side to make sure you find your perfect set-up!NEW: Unlock increased braking power* via the 4th mounting position which moves the pad down the slot towards the arm pivot.Life time guarantee against failure due to materials or manufacture.Revised 3D geometry makes these significantly stronger than the Mk2 around the 3 hole regionFull edge chamfers all around to be kind to your anklesFully machined in the UK to very precise tolerances from solid billet.Super Shiny Hand polished 6086-T6 Heat Treated Aluminium BaseBright Nickel plated custom steel boss.Weight saving cavity machined into underside"H" logo engraved on so it won't rub offComes complete with all M5 fixing bolts needed99g weight for both adapters fitted. * Depending on your frame & wheel set-up Also, we've got some new brake pad set-ups for our backing family:^ HeatsinkBikes Pad BackingsNew compounds as approved and used by Aurelien Fontenoy (World Jr Champion)More photos and details & ordering of the revised pad range can be found here: http://www.heatsinkbikes.com/?p=brakepadsMany thanks to our customers for their patience and best wishes recently for the birth of our new baby girl! Best wishes!Steve@heatsinkbikes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gardner Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Congrats Steve! New stuff looks cool, looking foward to getting my hands on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Finally, Been waiting for these yellows for while after riding rossy g's bike as hes still using his atm, Really good pads, Great bite and holdd, will be ordering some shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Linking the new Vee. Are the new white pads same compound as the old Snowies?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidehop Stuart Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 might invest in some vee adaptors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 thats better - the bolt position under the post is awesome... more power to the people ... I would almost consider buying some over my old heatsinks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Good work, SteveThe new gen adaptors look hot and offer just the adjustment that should help a lot of riders get more performance from their brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 the adaptors do look cool BUT they look very tall! My goal has always been to get the brake as close to the frame as possible, less flex and looks much nicer (I always get the piss taken for having "scaffolding" on the back of my bike )Also, am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the mounts lower than the 4 bolts? sure the pads near the top of the slot but I can just wind the speed dial adjuster on my avid lever to bring the leverage back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 the adaptors do look cool BUT they look very tall! My goal has always been to get the brake as close to the frame as possible, less flex and looks much nicer (I always get the piss taken for having "scaffolding" on the back of my bike )Also, am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the mounts lower than the 4 bolts? sure the pads near the top of the slot but I can just wind the speed dial adjuster on my avid lever to bring the leverage back to normal.i think having the mount at the same position as the fourbolt reduces flex in the mount (something i have never really noticed) but alot of people have commented on it apparantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 but having the brake higher produces flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Can vouch for the new vee adapters, there the dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Also, am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with the mounts lower than the 4 bolts? sure the pads near the top of the slot but I can just wind the speed dial adjuster on my avid lever to bring the leverage back to normal.It also helps mod riders use vee's ...when I rode a Python, I had to use very worn out Creepy Crwalers so the noodle/cable didn't catch on the treads - so the bottom mount would of helped loads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Just ordered some yellow refills. Be able to give you a reveiw in a few days Hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Great stuff!Adapter is look amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) Exellent job on the Yellows Have Alot of bite and they havent even fully bedded in yet.Hold is okay but like i said hasnt had much bedding in time(Y)Superb job Edited September 11, 2008 by Z o o !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks for all your comments so far. I'm really glad that the improvements and the realisation is well received Into this design I've incorporated all the little tweaks which have appeared on the radar since the Mk2s first came out almost 2 1/2 years ago (Mk2s were released on the 25th April '06 it says on the front page of my website!) I get quite direct contact with riders which is really beneficial to help spotting those small changes which really matter as well as the major new features which make the headlines and raise a product above the rest. I'm really chuffed with the extra mounting arrangement, and the machining and finish improvements. A particular good point for me is the improved strength. I must admit to it disappointing me to hear of some Mk2s breaking near the 3 hole region, the same highly stressed point which caused the Bonz adapters to break. I could ascertain in these cases of Mk2 breakage that there was some seriously huge riding going down! Although the breakage rate was very low, to the point that some may judge it acceptable, I strongly took it to heart that a future version needed to be even stronger, rather than skimpier. Alot of time was spent refining the geometry to address this, noticing that when trying a variety of brake arms there was scope to increase the radius between the two levels and beef up the Alu in the right direction to pump up the strength considerably. On the brake pads, Aurelien Fontenoy was trying a variety of HSB compounds whilst competing against the likes of the Coustelliers on the French Competition circuit. He got uncharacteristically excited about one compound and bearing in mind that I had been offering him the Coust pads and he asked for more pads in this new HSB compound over them, it's praise indeed!At the same time as the compound improvement, I've finally got the refills side of things nailed to ensure availability. Looking forward to more of your comments and thoughts as always,Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Nice one Steve. I'm guessing you've already thought about the adapters having a built in booster. I mean just a whole 1 piece design to avoid having to use another booster on top. Like Ali says it can be a bit much, all that metal sitting on the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Nice one Steve. I'm guessing you've already thought about the adapters having a built in booster. I mean just a whole 1 piece design to avoid having to use another booster on top. Like Ali says it can be a bit much, all that metal sitting on the frame.Hi! Yes it's an interesting idea, and one that I spent a while exploring. Nothing solid came of it though. Ontop of the extra design complexity, the additional material & machining would be a significant extra cost for my UK manufacture which would push the RRP out of the feasible realm. A shame really, but it's an eternal challenge to keep my business head straight even when intriguing ideas are compelling me for manufacture no matter what! As I create more time for my website improvements I've got some interesting but rejected product ideas which I could put up as food for thought. Interesting CAD models and such. If they're not a match for HSB then who knows, all may not be lost. They could help spark off some more ideas which evolve Trials products further. It's nice to be able to help in a small way with the improvement of Trials componentsMust get off to bed - I will probabily be back on baby calming duty at about 3am Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hi! Yes it's an interesting idea, and one that I spent a while exploring. Nothing solid came of it though. Ontop of the extra design complexity, the additional material & machining would be a significant extra cost for my UK manufacture which would push the RRP out of the feasible realm. A shame really, but it's an eternal challenge to keep my business head straight even when intriguing ideas are compelling me for manufacture no matter what! As I create more time for my website improvements I've got some interesting but rejected product ideas which I could put up as food for thought. Interesting CAD models and such. If they're not a match for HSB then who knows, all may not be lost. They could help spark off some more ideas which evolve Trials products further. It's nice to be able to help in a small way with the improvement of Trials componentsMust get off to bed - I will probabily be back on baby calming duty at about 3am SteveThat's what i thought. It would be a rather big lump of metal to use/ waste i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 It wouldn't be a waste of material though. Someone buys some V-adaptors, then has too much flex so buys a booster as well, an all-in-one would actually be quite handy and result in less material being needed in the long run. Again the price can be slightly higher as in effect you are offering 2 products merged together. As long as it wasnt any more than someone buying Adaptors and a booster in one transaction, it could work. With careful machining to keep weight to a minimum whilst maintaining strength, who knows, could prove to be very popular. Would save the added height in running V-adaptors, then a V-brake, then a bosster on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 in my experience the brakes flex in an arc around the tube. The only way I can see that being solved is with a booster on top as the brake can still flex with a booster under (I have tried it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hmm interesting. Does it not even reduce flex slighty? I've never really sat down and thought it through, but I'll try your judgement Ali, just this once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Ive always thought of modifying one of these into a V adapter for 4 bolts. Just line up this to where the holes are, mark then drill. Would mean less flex on the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Yeah it would be great if a company produced a V brake plate. Those BMX ones have pretty narrow spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 What about running a 4 bolt booster under the brake adapters?Steve, I'm trying to figure out the extra mount position... On the top one, the 4 bolt mount would line up with the 3 bottom holes on the adapters... But if you mounted it on the lower hole on the adapter, where would you bolt the bottom of it?I'm probably being stupid (tired!) but I can't see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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