J Trials 31 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 I can't never get em right. I have to bleed them all the time. Never have the right fluid to bleed them in. Needing new pads all the time. Can't align the pads. The list keeps going! I never do work on my bike, it's just my Maggies that I have to work on. Recently got a front Hope. Have never worked on it except for putting it on. So why does almost everybody use Maguras? I might go to V's soon. Would go rear disc, but that will be a ton more expensive. Does everybody else have so much trouble with Maguras? Or is it just me somehow getting all the crap. I almost never get to ride anymore cause my rear brake don't work right or at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Maguras are a doddle, you just have a bad experience with them. Read the stickies and so on, stick with maguras get used to servicing and fitting them properly and you wont regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 So Maguras are shit because you're too shit of a home mechanic to be able to bleed them and set them up properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 just go rear vee, you wont regret it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Suck ballsMaguras are epic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomm hale Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 For once, BJH is right Maggies are epic, but you need them set-up right and a grind/tar would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Smith Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 just go rear vee, you wont regret it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Just bleed it right. I have had no trouble with mine, Factory bled mind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 had this problem all the time, just gota keep at it when you become good enough at bleeding and get patience it will be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Maguras are great.If used and maintained properly.End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomm hale Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Maguras are great.If used and maintained properly.End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Why do you post so many bullshit topics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 No, I can finally bleed them and set them up fine, but it just takes so long!! Also, ran out of Blood the other day. Ran to the store and grabbed some mineral oil. Definitely not the same stuff! Brake practically won't work now. Anybody know if the thickness or something is different. Just wish you could get Blood anywhere. Oh, and just got my stupid TPA stuck again! I have some sort of Shimano v-brakes? Do you think they might work good with some good pads? Not sure what they are, just know they are Shimanos. Possibly XT's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Vincent Hermance, Benito Ros, Kenny Belaey, all using a Magura on the back...TRA, with what I'm pretty sure is a Magura on the back...Tunni, with a Magura on the back throughout, and on the front at some points... And so on.EDIT: Just bleed it with water? If the temps are getting near freezing, and a little anti-freeze to it, like you would add into the water in a car. That stops it from freezing up. Just empty the system out totally, if you can blow through it with an air hose/track pump all the better, but just bleed it as standard with water and you'll be fine. It's virtually free, and works fine, and feels way better than standard Magura oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Sure, but them guys are freikin ace! Some of those guys probably don't even setup their own bikes! (Talking about the Koxx team, Kenny Belaey and such). And doesn't water mess up your seals? I can't afford to buy new stuff and parts all the time. That's why I have such a hard time in this sport. No monies! Saved up for years to get what I thought was an ace bike. And it is except for no rear disc mount, rear disc hub, using a maggie. I'm kind of fed up using the brake, but I will have to continue trying to get it to work right. For the sake of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 No, water doesn't mess up the seals.What I was getting at is that the brakes obviously aren't "crap" if they've been the brake of choice for probably more than a decade in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 No, I can finally bleed them and set them up fine, but it just takes so long!! Also, ran out of Blood the other day. Ran to the store and grabbed some mineral oil. Definitely not the same stuff! Brake practically won't work now. Anybody know if the thickness or something is different. Just wish you could get Blood anywhere. Oh, and just got my stupid TPA stuck again! I have some sort of Shimano v-brakes? Do you think they might work good with some good pads? Not sure what they are, just know they are Shimanos. Possibly XT's?Replace magura oil with water. bleeding them takes me 5 minutes at the most - without any equipment other than 2 allen keys and a sink full of clean, cold water. TPAS can be bodged with a screw and work better that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Looks like you just need a new maggie, that'll solve your problem once and for all. Start saving up.And bleed it on water and antifreeze, if you think it's crap now, wait till you use it in the winter. The oil turns into butter pretty much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cox. Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Just buy a brand new magura hs33 and get some coust pads, sharp grind. You will soon love magura's then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 A bad workman blames his tools...Maybe you need to look at either your riding technique (land ontop of objects, not on the edge) or your pad/rim combo, or your set up capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 No, water doesn't mess up the seals.What I was getting at is that the brakes obviously aren't "crap" if they've been the brake of choice for probably more than a decade in trials.Alright, yeah I'll give you that, but don't think a change in them is long due? They haven't even changed the levers in 5 years. And the slave cylinders and such have never been changed. Can anyone confirm they have no problems using water? Just seems crazy. And my dad won't never believe it, probably won't allow me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Alright, yeah I'll give you that, but don't think a change in them is long due? They haven't even changed the levers in 5 years. And the slave cylinders and such have never been changed. Can anyone confirm they have no problems using water? Just seems crazy. And my dad won't never believe it, probably won't allow me to. Seriously I would estimate 80% of the forum use water - for me it's such a better feel.And as mentioned perhaps a new magura or just taking it all apart and cleaning any crap from around the seals. Using water allows you to pump lots of it through the system cleaning it of any crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Alright, yeah I'll give you that, but don't think a change in them is long due? They haven't even changed the levers in 5 years. And the slave cylinders and such have never been changed. Can anyone confirm they have no problems using water? Just seems crazy. And my dad won't never believe it, probably won't allow me to. I have never heard of anybody having a problem with a water bleed.There are over 100 reviews questions and topics about how and why to do it on TF.Search and find loads of them, then let you dad read them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Water in a magura is fine, doesnt damage seals makes the brake feel more responsive. Water in a dengura = no no, rots the seals, makes the brake leak etc (this way the old dengura, not sure about the new ones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Water in a magura is fine, doesnt damage seals makes the brake feel more responsive. Water in a dengura = no no, rots the seals, makes the brake leak etc (this way the old dengura, not sure about the new ones).It doesn't rot the seals 'edit: I think', it's just a bad design like the old RB levers, it's not tight enough. I think the problem is the piston being so large but don't quote me on that because I know shit all about them. Also I think the seals are avaliable from heatsink. Edited September 2, 2008 by froggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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