Echo Sl Range

[Mark W]

Some dirt jump pedals had o rings to stop them spinning freely (pedals stays in the same place when taking your feet off), i believe atomlab trailpimps had it as an example. However as a general rule, if you pedals don't turn freely...the bearings are shit

I thought that O-ring was part of the whole bushing (Well, bearing-less) design? They're rattly as shit when those O-rings start to die... Either way, my V12s don't fly around like loose, unsealed pedals do, but similarly, I'd imagine if I took half of one side of they'd spin around so the heavier side was down like those Echo pedals would inevitably do. Taking your foot off to balance mid line, then going to put your foot back on but having to faff about with flipping the pedal around would be bollocks. However, I guess most of this "SL" stuff is going to be aimed at people for whom the longest set of moves they're going to do is going to be either a single sidehop, gap, or some kind of tap, so I suppose for them it won't be a problem.

[manuel]

I thought that O-ring was part of the whole bushing (Well, bearing-less) design? They're rattly as shit when those O-rings start to die... Either way, my V12s don't fly around like loose, unsealed pedals do, but similarly, I'd imagine if I took half of one side of they'd spin around so the heavier side was down like those Echo pedals would inevitably do. Taking your foot off to balance mid line, then going to put your foot back on but having to faff about with flipping the pedal around would be bollocks. However, I guess most of this "SL" stuff is going to be aimed at people for whom the longest set of moves they're going to do is going to be either a single sidehop, gap, or some kind of tap, so I suppose for them it won't be a problem.

[Mat Smith!]

I thought that O-ring was part of the whole bushing (Well, bearing-less) design? They're rattly as shit when those O-rings start to die... Either way, my V12s don't fly around like loose, unsealed pedals do, but similarly, I'd imagine if I took half of one side of they'd spin around so the heavier side was down like those Echo pedals would inevitably do. Taking your foot off to balance mid line, then going to put your foot back on but having to faff about with flipping the pedal around would be bollocks. However, I guess most of this "SL" stuff is going to be aimed at people for whom the longest set of moves they're going to do is going to be either a sidehop, a gap, or some kind of tap, so I suppose for them it won't be a problem.

i dont need a pedal with only half a side to save weight or whatever so why would this pedal be aimed at me? pretty sure itd be aimed at uci or something for light weight?

Mat

[Mark W]

That was largely from going on pics in the Bike Pics forum...

[Dan6061]

Why is he still making threaded fixed hubs?

Surely the old design with the lockring is much better?

[JT!]

I haven't explained myself properly.

If you take some decent pedals like v12's or something like that, you can't just spin them and they'll go round for 30 seconds like a wheel would. Your gonna get 2 turns max before they stop. That's what i mean by restrictive.

However, I guess most of this "SL" stuff is going to be aimed at people for whom the longest set of moves they're going to do is going to be either a single sidehop, gap, or some kind of tap, so I suppose for them it won't be a problem.

I would have thought all the SL stuff was designed for more comp like riders or similar, not TGS stuff. Isn't that what urban is for?

I get where your coming from though, i suppose it depends exactly how top heavy they are. I'm pretty sure that if mine were the same shape they'd hold so long as the bike was still, if you were flying down a section one footed (you see everything at tyketrials) they would definitely find their way upside down.

Maybe that's the reason they're on that pic but not on any price lists. They just didn't work out.

[Mark W]

"Urban" may be for street, but I'm willing to bet that a shitload of people who do ride street still go for the "SL" stuff, simply because it's lighter.

Is Deng stuff actually used that much by comp guys? I gave up on comps a few years ago, but even on videos now there doesn't seem to be as much Deng-ery around as there is on street, where people will have a pretty much purely Deng setup?

[JT!]

"Urban" may be for street, but I'm willing to bet that a shitload of people who do ride street still go for the "SL" stuff, simply because it's lighter.

Is Deng stuff actually used that much by comp guys? I gave up on comps a few years ago, but even on videos now there doesn't seem to be as much Deng-ery around as there is on street, where people will have a pretty much purely Deng setup?

Yeah i agree, and then complain when it breaks.

No one would use Deng stuff now i wouldn't have thought because it's designed to be strong not light. But now the lightweight stuff is coming out we might see more of it about.

Also, Deng never sponsors any comp riders.

[Greetings]

Why is he still making threaded fixed hubs?

Surely the old design with the lockring is much better?

Cheaper = the whole idea behind the TR group