Zordon Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Quote from the Echobike design subpage:"There is a very interesting question: why don't you make a carbon booster? The answer: Carbon is light but very flexible, think about the fishing pole. Booster is for limit the flex, so carbon is not for booster."The answer is even more interesting than the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I think coloured cranks are silly they look shite. He should stick to just silver and black cranks. Just have coloured rims and hubs maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Almost as bad as bright orange frames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I think that's the 3rd post I've read about the risk of ankles being ripped apart.If my post was one of them, I wasn't thinking they'd kill your ankles in terms of them rubbing, I just meant that when cranks snap, you tend to f**k your ankles too.Yep, I agree. But 170 is a happy medium, otherwise, he's going to produce 6 colours in 160, 170 and 175. Although I think 175 would be better than 170.I know that this is obviously a taboo subject for trials riders, but maybe people need to start putting function ahead of fashion for the first time in a good few years? 175 cranks are really nice to ride with, so if Deng IS concerned about the amount of colours he'd have to stock, why not stock fewer colours? He's got a few colours in there that I can't really imagine being particularly big sellers. With the old anodised cranks, I only ever saw some of the coloured cranks being used on the Deng complete mock-up bikes as opposed to people actually buying them, presumably because they looked rancid. But yeah, basically, when the fact you "have" to have cranks in at least 6 colours at the expense of offering them in a range of potentially better lengths, people really need to start looking at their priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I have never looked at a bike with coloured cranks and though, "I could live with that," they always look horrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16 years later Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I think that's the 3rd post I've read about the risk of ankles being ripped apart.I really can't see how, the holes are tucked away, surely it's the shape and bend of the cranks which makes a crank that knackers ankles, an example is tensile with their very straight armed cranks. I'd more expect the edge of the "I-beam" construction of the cranks to cause more hassle than the holes.The I-beam construction of the cranks is very clever. Exactly what Deng said about the fact theres no strength lost from drilling the holes is right. I also don't think a twisting force is going to affect the cranks, maybe on a long beam, but on a pair of cranks the twist must be so minimal over such a small width compared to the length.Anyway, I'd be pretty sure if you bought the sl cranks you won't have a problem with them, the design is spot on as far as cranks go.My old tensiles the I beam ones are 2 years + old now and they have always twistedIf you land a bit sideways they twistIf you land good but with you weight a bit off they twistBut I do still f**king love them I just live with it and now I don’t really notice the twistingand coloured cranks = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 If you land a bit sideways they twistIf you land good but with you weight a bit off they twist They sound sooo dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Perkins Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) Not sure about all the drilling on everything. Some of it looks really weak. Hubs look nice though. Edited August 31, 2008 by tom perkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Check the echo website now, they've got a bunch of new parts in the TR series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Has anyone mentioned sl pedals yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Has anyone mentioned sl pedals yet?They're Wellgo MG-1 with ti axles Edit. Wait sorry, it says that on the Echo website, i've just realised, no matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 It also says echo are going to make a disk brake, would like to see this but from the picture it looks just like a hope..that disc brake lever looks surprisingly similar to a hayes stroker lever...........Unlike most company buy disc brake from others and put their logos on, we design a trials specific disc brake and make it ourselves in our own factory. copied from dengs site............ shame the design of the calliper is almost exactly the same as a hope...............................good luck to deng with these new products. some nice work going on!!ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 That all looks a bit swish! It seems a good idea to bring the RB Style lever back into production because, from what i can remember, they were hot stuff... I wonder how strong it will all be, though . I know you can never tell how strong things are from just looking at them and Deng usually has his head screwed on these days, but i will be curious to see if the warranty is any different to the 'Non-SL' components.Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 They're Wellgo MG-1 with ti axles Edit. Wait sorry, it says that on the Echo website, i've just realised, no matter.^ Check the pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 wont those pedals always naturally be the wrong way up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) Well pedals don't spin freely, so it should be ok.EDIT: When i mean freely i mean spin like a wheel. Edited September 3, 2008 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 But because theyre \__/ shaped the majority of the weight will be where the pins are, so they will go upside down to how they are seen in that photo, meaning every time you get on you will have to spin the pedal round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 But because theyre \__/ shaped the majority of the weight will be where the pins are, so they will go upside down to how they are seen in that photo, meaning every time you get on you will have to spin the pedal round.Yeah but pedal bearings on decent pedals don't spin freely, they're quite restrictive. You can put them at any angle and they'd stay like that. Even if they were top heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 ^ Check the pedals.Ahh ye I noticed them too, maybe they're something coming in the future, but for now from my price list and off the website the SL pedals are wellgo MG-1 with ti axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Can't be bothered to copy all the link, but you get the idea. Rear disc hub looks well smart.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Ahh ye I noticed them too, maybe they're something coming in the future, but for now from my price list and off the website the SL pedals are wellgo MG-1 with ti axle.Yeah that's what they are. But notice that the weight in the price list is 340g. I'm pretty sure the Wellgo MG1 Ti's weigh in at 300g. Wonder where the 40 grams have gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Yeah but pedal bearings on decent pedals don't spin freely, they're quite restrictive. You can put them at any angle and they'd stay like that. Even if they were top heavy.Sounds like you've had some shonky pedals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 'tis what I was thinking. Pedals should generally spin freely, not stay in one place. Bearings should never lock up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Some dirt jump pedals had o rings to stop them spinning freely (pedals stays in the same place when taking your feet off), i believe atomlab trailpimps had it as an example. However as a general rule, if you pedals don't turn freely...the bearings are shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Yeah that's what they are. But notice that the weight in the price list is 340g. I'm pretty sure the Wellgo MG1 Ti's weigh in at 300g. Wonder where the 40 grams have gone?298g supposedly [/nerd] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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