Captain Scarlet Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Ooh I've just looked closer, are those external headsets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidehop Stuart Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Yeah, I'm loving the pro too The double disc is nice and has got hs33 mounts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Why bashplate and guard on the cranks ?These cycles are sold in shops all over the country and they have to meet British Standards. Hence they require a chainguard. This is a particular necessity with a front freewheeling system.The bash ring therefore acts as a chain guard.Of course, we also need a bash plate so we fit both. This combination also gives the option for you to remove the bashplate for UCI riding and still have protection for the freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I dont care if you've dropped the T, Im getting one of them T-pro's next Looks ace if the geometry's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Geo and weights!!IIRC the frame is like 1.6k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Smith Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Im really loving them. The dual disk though f**k me, Might try one.Well Done Guys! and good luck aswell.ooli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) Geo and weights!!IIRC the frame is like 1.6k?I believe the bikes geo should be 1010 - WB +45 BB - 360 CS But that would be going by my drawings. I would quote you when then arrive.Weights again I cant tell you until they arrive. Like I said the the frame is about 1.675 KG for the Pro upwards.Im really loving them. The dual disk though f**k me, Might try one.Well Done Guys! and good luck aswell.ooliCheers dude, sense of warmth circulates. Edited August 14, 2008 by Joe@Onza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialZonn Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Really nice bikes!!!!I loved the way they look and the new colour schemes too!Brake setup combinations are a great choice!Well done!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Can onza PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE start making some descent forks?They are ALL steeeeel!!! 2kg forkz....omgz pleaseGlad to see you like them, (It's Joe by the way not Mike)Grips are pretty sweet because you do not have to buy a certain colour to go with your colour scheme. Have you ever used the porcipaw grips?Right, I knew someone would pick up on this, So here goes......These bikes are designed to go in any bike shop for any sort of buyer. From experience you would not beleive the amount of parents that phone up and say "I want one of those trial bike things with those sqeeky brakes, Mungara's I think you call them"So many enty level riders that do not know a lot about trials only look for whats stopping them. Thats why there are 3 models with different brake options. Non of them make more money then other, Its just how much they cost to make O.E.So a wise Trials Rider would see that the Blade is the best value for money model, but you are not hitting the general market. Good idea about the stems being 31.8 but this range was done on a shoe string this year, With all the price increases we had to take some sacrifice's. Like Alloy forks, oversize stem and bars etc.Yes you will be able to buy the Comp frame separately (same as the Pro and Blade) Moore Large will be distributing them still and I think they will sell for around £179.bikes looking good.thank god for dropping the previous T-bird designs, they were really off putting for beginners i thought, the ex-t-pro frames on the beginners range seems so much more appealing.im surprised at the prices too they are not over the top, considering all (or most) 2009 bikes will see either a 25% inflation in price or same price as previous years but only with DOWNGRADED parts, and this is taken from leading manufacturers' price lists and spec. this is all due to inflation in fuel/raw material costs.... 2009 is a bad year for bike industry.but kudos to onza to bring out a good range for a bad year.steveThat's why. Equally, cheap steel forks tend to be stronger than cheap alu forks, so I'd rather have steel forks on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rankin Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Great for the shops and beginners............. But would love to see a proper top of the range bike from onza to try and rival montys and koxx because it would probably be pretty awsome to ride with Joe and Drei giving the in-put... But obviously i understand the reasons for not doing so. Im sure this range will feature very highly at comps and in vids next year, good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Great for the shops and beginners............. But would love to see a proper top of the range bike from onza to try and rival montys and koxx because it would probably be pretty awsome to ride with Joe and Drei giving the in-put... But obviously i understand the reasons for not doing so. Im sure this range will feature very highly at comps and in vids next year, good work.Cheers Tom,The Ice will be become a full build. Full pro series kit on it. Maybe available near Christmas. We are working on the Koxx Monty thing though. ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 The bikes look absolutely amazing. If I was just starting and walked into a bike shop with this range, I'd had to run and find the nearest toilet. I can see these bikes selling well, especially the Blade. Dam well priced too.Good job Onza Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Thanks, Phil. You'll be wanting a dealer application form then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 f**king lush bikes onza fair play, the pro is stunning, and if it would have come out 1 year earlier when i started i would have defo had one. i like the way you are putting our feedback back into your bikes/products.what i do feel though is that you should do an onza top spec mod,it however would not be afforable at the beginners market though which your aiming for . with two hope disks, carbon bars, t-master stem, tensile cranks,tensile freehweel,hog rims on sealed bearing hubs, onza hognesium pedals... etc, it would defo be up there with the montys and koxxs but seing as its onza it will probably be cheaper which is only a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) what i do feel though is that you should do an onza top spec modI believe they are, it's called the Pro Series. All info is on the website. Edited August 14, 2008 by Alex-Mitchinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 what i do feel though is that you should do an onza top spec mod,The Ice will be become a full build. Full pro series kit on it. Maybe available near Christmas. We are working on the Koxx Monty thing though. ha ha. We certainly plan to introduce such a model. The problem is the difficulty in assessing how big this market really is. So many people at that level wish to spec. every last part themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 We certainly plan to introduce such a model. The problem is the difficulty in assessing how big this market really is. So many people at that level wish to spec. every last part themselves.i agree with you there,as theres no point spending nearly a grand on a standard speced onza, to then say change the forks,back wheel etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil Jsy Chris Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Look very nice Really like the colour schemes of all of them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY-E Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 They are new forks.yea and they still look shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 yea and they still look shitHow does a fork look good or bad? Sorry silly question....depends on what sticker is on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 How does a fork look good or bad? Sorry silly question....depends on what sticker is on them.More to do with the fact they are mega tapered straight blade forks, just look a bit meh to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY-E Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 How does a fork look good or bad? Sorry silly question....depends on what sticker is on them.Well yea, the sticker doesnt really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookyboy Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 bit of a shame they all look the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Well yea, the sticker doesnt really help.I agree with that point, the look of the Onza bikes had changed drastically (in cosmetics) over the years (of course in a good way), but the forks still look like the dated ones (which I would refer to as old school).Not the shape, but just the logo I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 How does a fork look good or bad? Sorry silly question....depends on what sticker is on them.As Matt said, they're a very thin, plain looking fork, and seem to have a huge amount of rake and the leg length seems longer than usual.People are used to forks like Echo Lites, Echo Urbans, etc. and when they see these they just assume they're poor quality Onza stuff.Also isnt the "Comp" the top spec one? Yet comes with (from what I assume) unsealed axle-bolt hubs? I think you need to redesign your budget parts to include simple things like allen bolts, rather than axle-nuts, just makes the bike look a bit less budget and a bit more professional. I'm not denying the bikes are brilliant value for money, but your allen bolt disc hub is only £10 more expensive than the axle-bolt non disc hub, surely you could make a set of non-disc and disc allen bolt hubs to put front and rear even on the cheapest bikes, and not up the price that much? I dunno what kinda markup you make on these products, but simple things like that would make the bikes look so much nicer.Maybe it's because I'm used to seeing the T-bird/pro/master range, which had obvious differences, yet with these seems like all you're changing is brakes and cranks? I know the frame changes on the Pro/Blade/Comp, but to a beginner stuff like that isn't obvious.I really like what you're doing though with regards to your budget bikes, I think it's awesome, but if it were me, I'd rather sacrifice a bit of markup for a few bits and pieces that will help your reputation no end.If I bought one of those Pro bikes, the things I'd do would be change front/rear hubs to allen bolt versions, change the forks, bar, and stem, apart from that I think it's a cracking little bike. I really think you should use the old t-master stem instead of those scary thin looking things too.Summary: Use allen bolt hubs (even if they're unsealed) just to make the bike look nicer, also saves the riders having to carry around a wonking great spanner out on rides with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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