King C Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) So I tried to sell a phone on ebay. Someone bought it using the Buy It Now but.....He has no feedback and is a new ebayer (less than 30 days), he lives in Germany but its a present for his son who lives in Nigeria. (Sounds really genuine doesnt it, NOT)Heres a couple of emails I got:[Please send me total amount for eBay item #150280386825, Sony Ericsson W950i Touchscreen phone From: eBay Member: marcuz200857 (checkout@ebay.co.uk) Sent: 08 August 2008 02:11:29 Reply-to: marcuze003@uymail.com To: kingcchan@hotmail.com Cc: marcuze003@uymail.com Please note that this is a system generated email. Please do not reply to this email. If you have questions, please click the following link or paste it in your browser. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/contact_inline/index.htmlPlease send me the total amount for my item.] [Dear kcchan0, I have purchased the following item on eBay from you. Please send me the total amount I owe you. get back to me Please send me the total amount for my eBay item You can send me an invoice easily by clicking Send Invoice below. Item # Item Title Qty. Price 150280386825 Sony Ericsson W950i Touchscreen phone 1 £80,00 I would like to have the item sent to the address below: marcuze alexander Carl-von-Linde Str Unterschleissheim 99768, Unterschleissheim Germany Thank you. marcuz200857 eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay will never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social Security numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, please visit User Account Protection.]Sent him a message saying that I wont post abroad and then I get:[item paid From: marcuze wiliams (marcuze003@uymail.com) You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe Sent: 08 August 2008 04:18:09 To: kingcchan@hotmail.com Dear seller,i am the winner of the item and i want to inform you clearly that i am working with travel agency and due to my condition of the job i am not at HOME and that is why you have to help me make the shipment of the item to my(SON) after paypal has notify you my payment for the item via paypal and i also want you to know that as soon as you notify by paypal you are to post item to my son because it for his (BIRTHDAY GIFT) and you have to make postege via royalmail and please i haved already inform ebay and paypal that i want my son item get post as soon as i completed payment so please, as i am mailling you now,i will like item ready for postege so that as soon as ebay sent u a comfirmation of my payment you post item. PLEASE AND please MY SON SHIPPING ADRESSS HAS BEEN GIVEN TO PAYPAL.and you can confirm my son shipping address Mr Samson Alexander.Block 112 Flact 6,Pencelima Agege Local,Government Area,Lagos state,Nigeria.23401. -- ]Then I supposedly get this from paypal:[marcuze alexande has just sent you an Auction Payment of £110.00 GBP with PayPal For An Ebay Item(PayPal®P in:# 150280386825 From: service@paypal.com (transaction.inc@writeme.com) Sent: 08 August 2008 04:36:53 Reply-to: transaction.inc@writeme.com To: kingcchan@hotmail.com Dear king chan,You have been sent a PayPal® payment of £110.00 GBP for an ebay item from one of Member marcuze alexander (marcuze003@uymail.com) for a recent item purchased from you. Money Request Details------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Buyer's Payment Information:------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Payment Type MASTER CARDName on Card VICRTRY ALEXANDER Card Number 5491*******67212Expiry Date mm/yy 08/09Card Holder Address ***************------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Shipping Information:------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Shipping Method : ROYALMAIL SIGNED FOR DELIVERY ABROAD.POSTAL ADDRESS CERITIFIED BY PAYPAL AUTHORITYMR SAMSON ALEXANDER,BLOCK 112 FLACT 6,PENCENIMA AGAGE L.G.A,LAGOS STATE,NIGERIA,23401.------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Payment to: ( kingcchan@hotmail.com)Item Amount: £80.00 GBPPostage & Packing: £30.00 GBPTotal Amount: £110.00 GBPItem Title : Sony Ericsson W950i Touchscreen phone (150280386825)------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------Money paid Details:------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited to your account until you ship and mail us with shipment tracking number, sent to our customer's service for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited.1: Make sure you receive the PayPal® Payment confirmation before any shipment.2 : Make sure the approved mail contains the total amount for the item bought.3 : Make sure you ship the item to the address the buyer gave to you which is written above, immediately you receive the approved confirmation.4 : Make sure the shipment tracking number is sent to our customer's service for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Make sure the shipment tracking number is sent to us ONLY through: (transaction.inc@writeme.com)5: Make sure the shipment tracking number is mailed to us ONLY and not the buyer.We thank you for your prompt attention. Please understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect you and your account.. We apologize for any inconvenience. Copyright ©1999-2008 PayPal. All rights reserved.PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. & Cie, S.C.A.Société en Commandite par ActionsRegistered Office: 5th Floor 22-24 Boulevard Royal L-2449, LuxembourgRCS Luxembourg B 118 349PayPal Email ID PP305 Thank you for using paypal ® . We look forward serving your online auction payment needs in the future.Sincerely,Gene BraintPaypal Team. ]Heres the item for anyone who wants to know.So apparently hes sent me £25 extra for postage? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...E:L:LCA:GB:1123What do you make of this? Should I report this to Ebay? Whats the worst that can happen if I dont send the phone?Just looking for some advice on what to do really.Thanks for reading.King Edited August 8, 2008 by kcchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 It is a scam, don't send your phone! Don't send anything!Contact eBay and get them to sort it mate.Trust me, it's a thing going on with expensive electrical goods at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I wasnt going to send it anyway. Just out of interest, how do these scams work? Are they emails from paypal fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Send him a pebble in a box. The c*nt deserves nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Clarke Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Send him a pebble shit in a box. The c*nt deserves nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) Too fast Sonny Jim! Edited August 8, 2008 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Hes not worth the postage for the pebble or the box. Especially to Germany or Nigeria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I take it your Paypal account hasn't been credited? If so scam scam scam... report him and get in touch with eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) No it hasnt been credited BUT from reading NBRcycles' Ebay/Paypal topic about not crediting accounts until reciept and satisfaction of the item, it got me awondering, hence the topic now. Edited August 8, 2008 by kcchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 No it hasnt been credited BUT from reading Phils Ebay/Paypal topic about not crediting accounts until reciept and satisfaction of the item, it got me awondering, hence the topic now.If that were the case, you'd have a transaction shown in your Paypal account with a 'status: held' or similar. If there's nothing there, he ain't paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Send him a pebble in a box. The c*nt deserves nothing more.Yeah, because the scammer gives his actual address doesn't he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Happened to me with an identical email, yes it's a scam and no I didn't send the goods. Was Germany for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I'd send him a stolen used tampon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 same thing happened to me 2 week ago over a 20d. German and Nigerians both mentioned, ignore it and relist the item Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Or on the Off chance it istn a scam, send An e-mail back saying as soon as all funds have cleared in your accounts you will send the phone.Although there is 1 fundamental Error with those E-mails.Paypal and Ebay will Allways use your name. Not your user name, not Mr/Sir/Madam ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) Go check your paypal, is there anything there that says there's a payment of £120. (Even if it's been held it'll show).If not all he's done is made a fake paypal email making you think you've got the funds. The paypal email looks dodgy as f**k anyway. Edited August 8, 2008 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 "will not be credited to your account until you ship and mail us with shipment tracking number"kind of gives it away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 "will not be credited to your account until you ship and mail us with shipment tracking number"kind of gives it away...O, scam it is then.Funny how this new ebay policey has created a scam. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Sort of works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love_trials Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Yeah, because the scammer gives his actual address doesn't he But if he didnt give a valid adress, how would he get the phone? (am i misundersanding or is the "scam" to get the phone without paying?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Tell him to get f**ked for this too; you listed it as 'Post to: United Kingdom' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Tell him to get f**ked for this too; you listed it as 'Post to: United Kingdom'Pretty sure scammers aren't actually interested in anything in the listing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah but he has the right to say f**k off, because it clearly stated that he won't post to Germany, whether it's a scam or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah but he has the right to say f**k off, because it clearly stated that he won't post to Germany, whether it's a scam or not.Mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Anything that says nigeria is a scam basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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