Matthew_Gibson Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Right. I hired a suit for prom, which I paid £10 deposit, and the another £80 to hire it for the night. Thing is I got jumped after prom. Resulting in the suit being "ruined" well there was probably a mud stain on the jacket, and a hole in the knee. Thing is they said if anything happens you wont get the deposit back. Thing is they rang me the other morning to say I owed them £130. for damages. Lad at work says "don't bother payin that as you didn't sign anything" as I didn't. Should I just say I'm not paying it? or pay it all. or just give them something?Just that they could have picked that price out of the air for all I know. but where has that £80 gone that I would have paid only to hire it for that day? Anyway! What should I do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Owen. Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Did you not sign anything at all? I think if i damaged mine it was like £50 or something. Id say argue it, dont just slap the cash in their hands, tr and blag that £80 or something. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_ Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hmm, I hired a suit the other day for a party, got it full on caked in mud after running/falling/rolling round a croquet field having spent 60quid on sambuca.Place I got it from didnt say a thing. They made me sign an imprint of my debit card saying if the suit was ruined they can take £200 out of my account. I also paid £6 extra for insurance against stains and what not.If you signed nothing, I guess there is no obligation for you to pay it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbat Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Read the T&C'sIf it says in there about 'paying for excessive damage' then you have to pay itIf it says nothing then your not responsible to pay it.Was it online order or from a company?Frooty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 take responsibilty and don't try to squirm out. You did take a suit that wasn't damaged. You did return a suit that was damaged, so you owe them money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 They are trying to run a business. I say go in and explain to them what happened, expect to pay the full amount and maybe ask them if there is anyway you get the price down. The £80 you paid to hire the suit dosent go towards what damage you have caused to it thats their profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Go in with your wang out and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 It's moral vs legal by the sound of it.£10 deposit seems kind of strange, would have thought you'd leave a deposit for the cost of the suit. Was it a little local store where you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 It's moral vs legal by the sound of it.£10 deposit seems kind of strange, would have thought you'd leave a deposit for the cost of the suit. Was it a little local store where you live?Its just a local store..... I may go in tmora, I dont have the money though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah you've damaged the suit, its your fault etc, but if you didn't sign anything you're not legally bound to it... But if it were me Id pay for it. Think about role reversal, you're the business owner, now with a f*cked suit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah you've damaged the suit, its your fault etc, but if you didn't sign anything you're not legally bound to it... But if it were me Id pay for it. Think about role reversal, you're the business owner, now with a f*cked suit...wasnt fully my fault though...... got attacked from behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah you've damaged the suit, its your fault etc, but if you didn't sign anything you're not legally bound to it... But if it were me Id pay for it. Think about role reversal, you're the business owner, now with a f*cked suit...wasnt fully my fault though...... got attacked from behindYeah, but like he's said, you've still got a f**ked suit, it's just bad luck matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Owen. Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 wasnt fully my fault though...... got attacked from behindSorry, that made me laugh!! Sorry to hear the news, hope you get it sorted! And keep us posted to how it goes if you go in there. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 take responsibilty and don't try to squirm out. You did take a suit that wasn't damaged. You did return a suit that was damaged, so you owe them money...God there some moral high ground arse wipes on here lately!Fact is if the £80 really was for just the 'use' of the suite with no damage, that's one hell of a profit for the shop owner. Ignoring the time value of the money the owner used to buy the suite, his direct costs would be what £15 for a wholesale dry-clean? £65 profit.Everyone should be in the suite lending business! Nah, the shop owner is pissed off because on this transaction he isn't milking the guy for £65 like usual, even though that price factors in the risk that the suite will come back damaged. But because it's some 18 year old beady eyed kid returning it, he's trying plan B and just straight out asking for more money! He's taking you for a fool, don't be one. Don't be one, and don't hand over your hard earned cash if you don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 God there some moral high ground arse wipes on here lately!Fact is if the £80 really was for just the 'use' of the suite with no damage, that's one hell of a profit for the shop owner. Ignoring the time value of the money the owner used to buy the suite, his direct costs would be what £15 for a wholesale dry-clean? £65 profit.Everyone should be in the suite lending business! Nah, the shop owner is pissed off because on this transaction he isn't milking the guy for £65 like usual, even though that price factors in the risk that the suite will come back damaged. But because it's some 18 year old beady eyed kid returning it, he's trying plan B and just straight out asking for more money! He's taking you for a fool, don't be one. Don't be one, and don't hand over your hard earned cash if you don't have to.So this shop owner needs to now buy a new suit so that he can hire it out? And you think he should pay for it because some wee lad had bad luck and jumped from behind?Your a ******.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Fact is if the £80 really was for just the 'use' of the suite with no damage, that's one hell of a profit for the shop owner. Ignoring the time value of the money the owner used to buy the suite, his direct costs would be what £15 for a wholesale dry-clean? £65 profit.Thats completely besides the point - The cleaning cost could be catered for by the customer as they were the ones that did the damage. The same goes with any sort of rental...cars, DVDs, CD's. You damage it, you pay for it.If he let everyone off the dry cleaning bill, he'd quickly be out of pocket.It may be worth going into the shop to talk to him face to face. Explain the situation and he may well let you off a couple of quid - but thats no promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Extreme_biker0:all that is besides the point. This guy has agreed at the time of hire that the price is a fair one by going ahead with the transaction, so anything that happens after that is null and void. Matt: If there was no contractual agreeement then you can safely not pay, but morally you should definately at least meet him half way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 God there some moral high ground arse wipes on here lately!Fact is if the £80 really was for just the 'use' of the suite with no damage, that's one hell of a profit for the shop owner. Ignoring the time value of the money the owner used to buy the suite, his direct costs would be what £15 for a wholesale dry-clean? £65 profit.Everyone should be in the suite lending business! Nah, the shop owner is pissed off because on this transaction he isn't milking the guy for £65 like usual, even though that price factors in the risk that the suite will come back damaged. But because it's some 18 year old beady eyed kid returning it, he's trying plan B and just straight out asking for more money! He's taking you for a fool, don't be one. Don't be one, and don't hand over your hard earned cash if you don't have to.lol, what a wanker!Everyone sues everyone, ad everyone tries to get outof things these days. Be a decent person and accept that you took the suit and returned it f**ked, so pay the f**king bloke! It's not difficult to be decent and fair. I hope you get shafted by some willy who borrows somehting, f**ks it and doesn't sort it out. It's not moral high ground it's what i'd do. I borrowed a £120 beghaus rucksack once, and a hot ember hit it and put a hole in it, smaller than a little fingernail, yet i bought a brand new one for him, as it wasn't given back to him in the state i took it. The fact that you're dealing with a business is no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 God there some moral high ground arse wipes on here lately!Fact is if the £80 really was for just the 'use' of the suite with no damage, that's one hell of a profit for the shop owner. Ignoring the time value of the money the owner used to buy the suite, his direct costs would be what £15 for a wholesale dry-clean? £65 profit.Everyone should be in the suite lending business! Nah, the shop owner is pissed off because on this transaction he isn't milking the guy for £65 like usual, even though that price factors in the risk that the suite will come back damaged. But because it's some 18 year old beady eyed kid returning it, he's trying plan B and just straight out asking for more money! He's taking you for a fool, don't be one. Don't be one, and don't hand over your hard earned cash if you don't have to.Thats a fair bit harsh....... Extreme_biker0:all that is besides the point. This guy has agreed at the time of hire that the price is a fair one by going ahead with the transaction, so anything that happens after that is null and void. Matt: If there was no contractual agreeement then you can safely not pay, but morally you should definately at least meet him half way.I'll go in, and explain my financal situation... see what they can do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Thats a fair bit harsh....... I'll go in, and explain my financal situation... see what they can do!i think pocketmans got it. i still doubt theyll be very happy (the shop)try and haggle, just remain calm aswell cus if theyre abrupt and forward then you might just find 'ok ill find the cash' slip out too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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