Greetings Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Personally as a rider I'd always go for Cousts no matter what the rim surface is like. They're incredible on a smooth rim, they're incredible on a grind and they're incredible in the wet. The compound isn't a re-engineered one, it actually comes from Michael Coustellier in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) It is all good.The Equation of pads (Plazs being lumped with others, that part understood) used on smooth (with or without a little tar) to that of being not really any good for much beside street riding struck me as odd. Must have just been the wording. I felt it needed some sort of response. There is so much myth/hype/hysteria about trials brake pads that I do try and interject on occasion. Defense of Plazmatic CRM?............ yes, of course;)"would you talk like that to your customers" Explain a misconception, vigorously defend a brand, and maybe throw in a sarcastic quip.............. good lord, yes! Lest we all become dullards. Edited July 21, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 It is all good.The Equation of pads (Plazs being lumped with others, that part understood) used on smooth (with or without a little tar) to that of being not really any good for much beside street riding struck me as odd. Must have just been the wording. I felt it needed some sort of response. There is so much myth/hype/hysteria about trials brake pads that I do try and interject on occasion. Defense of Plazmatic CRM?............ yes, of course;)"would you talk like that to your customers" Explain a misconception, vigorously defend a brand, and maybe throw in a sarcastic quip.............. good lord, yes! Lest we all become dullards.You don't half chat some shit you know Tim. There really is no need to be such an arse hole. The way you word your posts and talk to people makes you look like you're right up your own arse.I personally think plaz pads are great in the dry but if you get the smallest amount of water on your rim they are awful. Koxx browns however are my pad of choice.The point i'm trying to make is that Tim is a bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Tim, main thing you appear to have missed is that people weren't shit talking Plaz pads as "not being good on a smooth rim" in any way, all Adam said - and many people would agree, including me - is that if you're using tar, you can get away with using pretty much any pad, it just doesn't matter. I used some of the godawful Planet-X Sticky pads and with a bit of tar they worked fine. Same with Koolstops. Same with X-Hydras. Same with CRMs (Which, incidentally, were the best pads I ever used for my front brake). So yeah, that's all Ad was saying, not that "there's no difference between pads on a smooth rim", as you appeared to be saying in your last post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Tim, main thing you appear to have missed is that people weren't shit talking Plaz pads as "not being good on a smooth rim" in any way, all Adam said - and many people would agree, including me - is that if you're using tar, you can get away with using pretty much any pad, it just doesn't matter. I used some of the godawful Planet-X Sticky pads and with a bit of tar they worked fine. Same with Koolstops. Same with X-Hydras. Same with CRMs (Which, incidentally, were the best pads I ever used for my front brake). So yeah, that's all Ad was saying, not that "there's no difference between pads on a smooth rim", as you appeared to be saying in your last post?In the read of the statement, if my error, I am certainly man enough to admit it. It is just when you have an equals sign, and one one side is not good for anything but street and on the other side of it is all pads that are with smooth rims........ there did not seem to me allot of misinterpretation to be had, apparently I was incorrect! Syntax and my reading of it were cohorts of the worst sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I still don't understand how you could have read that to be bad mouthing Plaz pads :/ I've read it numerous times and all I can see is that Adam was saying any pads with tar makes a good brake, he mentioned nothing about Plazzies being an inferior product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 "would you talk like that to your customers" Explain a misconception, vigorously defend a brand, and maybe throw in a sarcastic quip.............. good lord, yes! Lest we all become dullards.I think it's apparent that I was referring to the attitude you've displayed that has been mentioned several times in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 No one was having a go at Plaz pads (For the record, I use CRMs). As a great man once said: "You could use chipolata with tar, and it would work" which was basically what Adam@Tartybikes was saying. It seems as though there was a bit of misunderstanding, although I'm still not convinced that Tim 'gets' it. Maybe it's the dry British wit or something To the person who started the topic, might be best to use the search. These topics come up every day, there must be hundreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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