PaRtZ Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Ive recently got back into GTA san andreas but after installing it its running quite jumpy... The sound is the worst thing, the slightest build up of traffic/sfx and single second sound clips are dragged out and stutter for about 7 seconds. Also at high traffic jams/people/etc the gfx also jumps quite a bit too. Now I've tried running on the lowest settings and it doesn't help (the frame limiter on definitly does though), I've tried closing all other background processes and still nothing My spec is: Intel dual core 3.0ghz processor GFX card: Radeon X600 128mb dedicated memory 2gb RAM (yes 2gb) Sound: Conexant AC-97 Windows XP Any ideas? other things to try? Is it worth freeing up hard disc space too or will that not have a big effect? thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I don't really know much to be honest but maybe try and get the latest graphics card drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Checked the sound settings ingame? If it's set to X-fi dolby surround motherhubbard an you've only got some batty conextant AC97 sound card then you'll notice jumpy shit as the computer waits for the sound card to process the crazy amount of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Freeing up you're hard drive will make a slight bit of difference, close down every application other than the game. Can't think of anything else and you're quite limited to what you can do because you're on a laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_ Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Playing gta 2 (yea my laptops that shit) I managed to stop the savage jumping by closing every other aplication, its also raped because I have TOTALLY filled the memory on it :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I'm running cod4 on my laptop with alright gfx. It either runs mint and smooth for ages and has a few small laggy spots at about 30/40fps, runs alright and playable at about 30fps, or completely being a 'tard at about 8fps lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Right, San andreas is a bit of a gay to be honest. First of all Update all your graphics drivers, Secondly click the following link and post details of what it says: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest Thirdly show me a list of your processes running on your xp system at the moment. Fourth, if none of it works go into San andreas and change resolution settings, graphics settings to low. If none of that works, then ill look for other answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicP Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Update Sound and Graphics drivers Check for patches of the game? I'm too tired to nerd out NicP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Checked the sound settings ingame? If it's set to X-fi dolby surround motherhubbard an you've only got some batty conextant AC97 sound card then you'll notice jumpy shit as the computer waits for the sound card to process the crazy amount of sound. X-Fi is a product, not an industry standard. His laptop is new and should be able to handle surround sound, any other hardware based functions like EAX won't be applied as the hardware isn't capable of running them. Reduce the graphics settings, an x600 doesn't sound like a powerful card and San andreas is a poor console port that's not terribly forgiving on pc graphics cards. Sound might also be being processed by your cpu, ensuring no background programs are running should free it up a bit to help it out, though with a dual core i'd doubt this is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Well firstly that can you run it thing said I can run it, but i failed the reccomended setup on my graphic card. I cant find an update for my sound driver that actually works, the realtek one causes a code 10 (driver can not start) and a conexant one just says "failure" when trying to install, no details or anything Ive looked around and people say I need to download and install the catalyst 4.9 for my graphics card. Again when installing that version it says failed to install, cannot find components for installation. As I've already said, lowering the settings doesn't make a difference, but the only thing Ive found that does make a difference is the radio, if I turn the radio off, the game runs better and it takes more to make it jumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Well firstly that can you run it thing said I can run it, but i failed the reccomended setup on my graphic card. I cant find an update for my sound driver that actually works, the realtek one causes a code 10 (driver can not start) and a conexant one just says "failure" when trying to install, no details or anything Ive looked around and people say I need to download and install the catalyst 4.9 for my graphics card. Again when installing that version it says failed to install, cannot find components for installation. As I've already said, lowering the settings doesn't make a difference, but the only thing Ive found that does make a difference is the radio, if I turn the radio off, the game runs better and it takes more to make it jumpy. The radio thing your describing sounds like a ram issue though mate. Give me a list of your processes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) The radio thing your describing sounds like a ram issue though mate. Give me a list of your processes please The radio thing sounds RAM related? As opposed to sound card driver related? You see, if he doesn't have the correct sound drivers installed, the processor has to do all the sound mixing itself, wheras if the drivers are installed, the card will do it. This is called software mixing as opposed to hardware accellerated mixing. Source the correct drivers for your sound card. That will do the trick. For f**ks sake this game will run on 2 billion ram transistors, it was brought out like 8 years ago when only the fastest supercomputers in the world had that. In fact thinking about it, your processor should easily be able to software mix the sound in real time. f**k knows. Is your processor running at 100% while it's stuttering? Edited July 3, 2008 by Extreme_biker0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 The radio thing sounds RAM related? As opposed to sound card driver related? You see, if he doesn't have the correct sound drivers installed, the processor has to do all the sound mixing itself, wheras if the drivers are installed, the card will do it. This is called software mixing as opposed to hardware accellerated mixing. Source the correct drivers for your sound card. That will do the trick. For f**ks sake this game will run on 2 billion ram transistors, it was brought out like 8 years ago when only the fastest supercomputers in the world had that. In fact thinking about it, your processor should easily be able to software mix the sound in real time. f**k knows. Is your processor running at 100% while it's stuttering? Yeah but, hes saying mainly caused by radio, meaning he has the same issues with the radio off, just not so severly. And trust me, a computer can quite easily eat up 2gb of ram if processes which shouldnt be running are. Found some patches aswell. to be honest i have no idea if there going to work because i dont have san andreas, but try. http://www.take2games.com/support/patches/...o_1.01_COLD.zip + If it is really sound drivers, then try this: click start menu Run type "dxdiag" check your directx version which is listed on the opening page of the program. click next page twice and check that there are no problems with your sound. On vista this is auto checked, but there might be tests on xp. Anyway, hope that helps. If you fix the problem, please say what was wrong, and so that we stop trying to think of fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 The radio thing sounds RAM related? As opposed to sound card driver related? You see, if he doesn't have the correct sound drivers installed, the processor has to do all the sound mixing itself, wheras if the drivers are installed, the card will do it. This is called software mixing as opposed to hardware accellerated mixing. Source the correct drivers for your sound card. That will do the trick. For f**ks sake this game will run on 2 billion ram transistors, it was brought out like 8 years ago when only the fastest supercomputers in the world had that. In fact thinking about it, your processor should easily be able to software mix the sound in real time. f**k knows. Is your processor running at 100% while it's stuttering? it's a laptop, and I would presume from the model name that it is not a dedicated sound card so it will always use the main CPU because it is integrated into the chipset. It's a ram issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 it's a laptop, and I would presume from the model name that it is not a dedicated sound card so it will always use the main CPU because it is integrated into the chipset. It's a ram issue. Id just like to say thanks. Point proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme_biker0 Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) it's a laptop, and I would presume from the model name that it is not a dedicated sound card so it will always use the main CPU because it is integrated into the chipset. It's a ram issue. Haha what? So because it doesn't have a dedicated sound card plugged into a pci slot there's no hardware mixing!? That's complete bullshit. ALL modern integrated sound cards have hardware mixing, and all do it well*, but you need to have the drivers installed to use it! *this is why you don't get hardly any computers with sound cards any more; the integrated chipsets do everything that you used to require a whole card for. Times change. Id just like to say thanks. Point proven. Cos he said so? Bullshit! 2 people can be wrong Edited July 4, 2008 by Extreme_biker0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I'm gonna go with mark on this one. There's 2gb of ram and a speedy dual core processor, its not a RAM issue. It will be something related to the sound or video drivers/setup. Faulty ram will show itself in other areas of the laptops performance, not just a stuttering game. A load of system hogging processes will slow the laptop down in most games, not just one, it also wouldn't be only when there is sound going on... it'd be all the time. He's mentioned there's issues with the sound and video drivers, yet you think its a ram problem and now you've had someone else (incorrectly) agree you think your definitely right and the more logical idea is wrong. Keep at it with the sound and video drivers, download them a few times from different places and try running them in windows safe mode to install them. Try entering the laptop setup menu during the boot and disabling the sound chipset and letting it boot up, then restarting and enabling it again in the setup menu again. Try uninstalling drivers entirely then restarting and installing them again. If that doesn't work and its vista try right clicking on the start icon on the start menu or desktop icon and running it as an administrator. Might not be the problem but sometimes fixes silly little issues like this. EDIT: As a separate train of thought. If its a laptop with a decent spec but a low budget graphics solution such as this there could be a high chance that they tried to increase the graphics performance by allocating a certain amount of shared memory. This means your laptops graphics chipset will effectively use your main system RAM as its own, giving you either 1.75gb of ram or 1.5gb depending on how much it uses. With vista installed and a game with a recommended 2gb of ram for smooth play it might be just a little bit too much for it. If this is the case try bumping the resolution down in the games graphics settings, it'll need less memory and if it stops the jittering it might just be the cause of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 EDIT: As a separate train of thought. If its a laptop with a decent spec but a low budget graphics solution such as this there could be a high chance that they tried to increase the graphics performance by allocating a certain amount of shared memory. This means your laptops graphics chip set will effectively use your main system RAM as its own, giving you either 1.75gb of ram or 1.5gb depending on how much it uses. With vista installed and a game with a recommended 2gb of ram for smooth play it might be just a little bit too much for it. If this is the case try bumping the resolution down in the games graphics settings, it'll need less memory and if it stops the jittering it might just be the cause of it. Graphics card already has 128mb dedicated, might use main ram but doubt it. Possible way of improving performance may just be buying a new graphics card. That would fix drivers as well, as obv it would have new ones, still don't think the sound drivers would cause this amount of lag in a game, and the fact that as far as we know its only this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Except theat 97% of laptops don't have upgradable graphics cards. Roll back your drivers and re-install them. THEN think about changing hardware. The best solution isn't just to throw money at it untill it goes away. 'boats and EB0 have pretty much said what I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Graphics card already has 128mb dedicated, might use main ram but doubt it. Possible way of improving performance may just be buying a new graphics card. That would fix drivers as well, as obv it would have new ones, still don't think the sound drivers would cause this amount of lag in a game, and the fact that as far as we know its only this game? Why? I've seen 256mb cards using up to 768mb of system ram before... if it has shared ram it'll use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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