bikeperson45 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Just curious as to how long it took you guys to learn the moves . I'm attempting pedal kicks at the moment but, ehhhhhhh. What would you say is the move that takes longest to learn? I've been trying fakies and I'm doing alright with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Gapping to front wheel seems to be taking a bit of mastering for me! Will get there though. Techniques that took me the longest to master are probably hopping on the front wheel and squeakers. Probably spent couple of months of regular practice to nail these. Just got to stick at whatever you want to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Effin ages to learn the pedal kick, then i started to ride with other people and i picked it up pretty quickly Edited June 17, 2008 by El Cristoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ups to front and gaps to front have always eluded me, could never get my head around how to do them 1st ride on the deema last night and stuff to front wheel just seemed to come naturally, I dont know whether its the weight or the geometry - more likely the geometry of the frame Having a well setup bike and geo make trials so much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Found exactly the same thing going from a 2005 ish Echo Pure to a 2007/08 Control. The change in geometry (Lower handlebars and a higher BB) combined with a much grabbier front brake made a huge difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Does higher BB make things easier? I want to ride with people but theres no other trials person. I'm self motivated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Sidehops, I hate them! Can't do them! Can do most other things too, just not them! :@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 i can do sidehops ok (well not high, but I got it the second time) but those bloody pedal kicks, then theres booning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Does higher BB make things easier? I want to ride with people but theres no other trials person. I'm self motivated It depends on your riding style, higher BB can help with balance on the rear wheel; however if you go too high it can restrict your ability on other moves. My old zoo! boa was about +5 BB, my hifi is +55 BB and my deema is +30 BB. The zoo! was ok, the hifi was awesome on the rear wheel it would just balance there but for tapping and ups to front or back wheel it just didnt feel right. The deema on the other hand feels perfect, it seems to be so well balanced between front and back, rolling pigeons are possible so are front to backs - both of which were difficult for me on the hifi There are people out there who can ride rediculously high BB (vincent and damon to name two) but I think general consensus of opinion is that +20 to +35 is optimum BB rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I thing higher BB's tend to be better if you like techy hopping based moves. If you like to carry momentum through things (More street style stuff) it's not as desirable. Certainly the higher BB frame feels much better on the back wheel (And I thought my last bike was completely sorted on the back wheel already) and more controlled over rocks and natural stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) I think it all depends on whether you're riding on your own or with other trials riders. Its so much quicker to learn with others. On your own can take time, just depends how determined your are and how much time you got. P.s. WTF is booning? Edited June 17, 2008 by Diz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 P.s. WTF is booning? Hopping forwards with the rear wheel locked, the forward momentum is provided by chucking your shoulders and hips about. Very useful on the edges of walls and uneven rocks where small, precise movements on the rear wheel are needed. Took me forever to figure out how to do them then one day it just snapped and its very easy now With practise you can lengthen boon gaps and ups, I can boon about 3 foot forwards but only about a foot vertically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil Jsy Chris Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Front to backs, took me ages to be able to get a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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