Diz Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I'm sure all of you guys have certain tricks which you try hard to do but fail miserably. Mines a 360 spin on the back wheel. No matter how hard i try i can only get it to 180. I'm starting to wonder whether i'll ever be able to manage it. Anybody got any advice? Also, what tricks are other people struggling with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I'm sure all of you guys have certain tricks which you try hard to do but fail miserably. Mines a 360 spin on the back wheel. No matter how hard i try i can only get it to 180. I'm starting to wonder whether i'll ever be able to manage it. Anybody got any advice? Also, what tricks are other people struggling with? Preload to the side you're not going to spin, then, pull round and back. You want to be nearly vertical when you hit 180, that's what it looks like when Martyn Ashton does it. I can get 270 I wanna know how to 180 drop off a ledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Well heres my list of tricks to complete: pedal kicks fakies 360's spin 180 hops bunnyhops front wheel hops 360 endo turns .... Just practise, you'll get there eventually. I won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Well heres my list of tricks to complete: front wheel hops .... Just practise, you'll get there eventually. I won't Tell me why people try to do that when 99.9% of the time in trials you never use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I love Drop gaps and Gaps to front i find flat gaps hard thow can only get 6.5ft flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Well heres my list of tricks to complete: bunnyhops Basics mate, get yourself out there and practice your arse off. All else fails come along to one of the organised rides...you'll find you'll pick up loads just riding with other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialZonn Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I can get a little more than 180 but never managed to make a 360 spin. I really want to learn sidehopping high but I never get it right no matter how good and far I know to lurch I know it's the same move as the lurch/pedalkick forwards but I still can't jump to the side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I really want to learn sidehopping high but I never get it right no matter how good and far I know to lurch I know it's the same move as the lurch/pedalkick forwards but I still can't jump to the side... Start small and work your way up, thats what i did. Start on a curb or something and gradually get bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_ Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Preload to the side you're not going to spin, then, pull round and back. You want to be nearly vertical when you hit 180, that's what it looks like when Martyn Ashton does it. I can get 270 I wanna know how to 180 drop off a ledge From 2 wheels, like sideways? or from backwheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_addison Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Kinda struggling with sidehops. Can do them alright on a mod but when i try to do them on a stock it just doesnt happen, like my foot comes automaticly off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 From 2 wheels, like sideways? or from backwheel? From two wheels. Its the kind where its basically a rockwalk off the ledge. I can swing my back wheel round, but i can't lift my front end up until the back wheel's on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I can swing my back wheel round, but i can't lift my front end up until the back wheel's on the ground. Just keep practicing this on the flat or off a curb. Just do an endo then practice pulling up hard on the bars when you're passing 90 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 The easiest way i find to do the 180 drop is as you hit 90 degrees, hop on your front wheel and push out. that will make you 270 in effect, but it looks uber cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgnoseat Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I have alot of problems with spinning.. the only spinning moves I can do are a 270 drop of from the side, and a 180 endo drop off... Just can't get the power into the spin, can't pedal kick into them aswell, just feels weird. Can do a 180 static, but since I can't put in a pedal kick I move backwards quite alot, destroying the whole purpose of the move. So here is my list I guess: - rolling/static 180 - 360 on rear wheel - Endo Hops - Manuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 - Endo Hops - Manuals These two are both ones where finding the balance point is really important. Needless to say you're probably gonna have to go past the balance point a few times (ie eat dirt). With manuals i find it easier the faster you go. Make sure you've got your finger ready on the back brake just in case. Get up some speed, pull up on the bars and throw all your weight back behind the seat/ over the rear tyre. Just keep practicing and one day you'll just find the balance point and be popping manuals all over the shop. With the endo hops, you'll need to find your balance point as well. Just keep practicing endos going as high as you can till you can judge where the balance point is. Once youve got that, just preload your body then pull upwards. Not so much with the arms thouyfgh otherwise the back end will just drop down. Try to get the movement coming from your legs/hips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabiot Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I'm working on manuals, bunnyhops and taps lately. I can do a very very short manual but the wheel comes right down usually. If I do get near my balance point I feel like I'm falling over and tend to either brake or lean forward a bit to put the front wheel down. I'll get this, it's just gunna take a few months. Bunnyhops are fun and my technique is coming along but I dunno if I can clear a curb with a hop yet. Taps are fun. Weird, but fun. The pedal strokes are really important as well as timing. I practiced for two hours before I could properly get on top of something only about 6" off the ground. That pissed me off cause I knew I could just pedal and get the bike up but I also knew that wasn't correct. Endos and Catwalks are a big one for me. I can endo just fine, but I dont have the balance point even close yet. The wheel comes up and goes down. I can hold it for maybe 2.5 seconds on a real good one. Usually the back just comes up and then goes down... another one that will come in time but can be frustrating. Catwalks are fun as hell and I'm getting better (now at least) I practice these because the balance point for this technique is gunna be pretty close to the same for manuals and backhops. Its like a threefer. Oh... super frustrating. Trying to use a pedal stroke and then balance on the backwheel... up down up down up down. Think you got the wheel up high enough and your weight far enough back? Nope, sorry. Nope sorry. Nope not happening today, or tomorrow or the next day... I honestly dont know how people do it. I gotta dedicate more time to it but I feel its a bit more "advanced" and I dont need to worry about it much yet. But when I do try it (even with doing an endo first) it feels retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Work on backhops and pedalkicks, forget catwalks, they come naturally. Edited June 14, 2008 by Revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 front wheel hops rolling pedal kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Manuals I've been trying to learn them for 7 years now without any success... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Manuals I've been trying to learn them for 7 years now without any success... You afraid of looping out? and as a consequence landing on your head and being knocked out? Edited June 14, 2008 by Revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 You afraid of looping out? Nope, i just have no balance at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Nope, i just have no balance at all Hehe, then I can't help How can you do trials and have no balance?!?!? You're an oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I've been trying to manual for over a decade and I still can't hold one for any length of time (It took me over 2 years to learn wheelies)... Record for front hops is about 5 - always hopping backwards too, so not making it to the balance point. Strangely I'm perfectly happy backhopping, stalling or pivoting on the back or front wheel on the edge of stuff etc. I'm guessing part of the reason I'm no good at those moves is that they're good for style, but not useful for actually getting a bike over stuff so I don't really practice them while I'm riding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diz Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I'm guessing part of the reason I'm no good at those moves is that they're good for style, but not useful for actually getting a bike over stuff so I don't really practice them while I'm riding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 HOOKS! arrrrrrrrrrrrrg!!1 jus keep trying them and sure i can pwn on an angled wall but cant realy come close on a vertical wall i dont get what brakes i should have on etc or is there anyways i can practice the actualy hook bit to back wheel with out tryin the full hook.... like booning or what eva you call it?? i realy dont know where to start as know one i ride with can hook.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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