Krisboats Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Random hilarity You also missed out being able to talk about it at rides and stuff, as well as it being different to everyone elses well u must have been running pretty heavy tyres. Theres nothing wrong with uprating the components on ur bike, but this thread is about cutting holes in things and invalidationg your warrenty (and ultimately putting your health at risk) to make 2mm height difference and so on. People haven't been doing it for that long, so im waiting for the time when fatigued components break due to pointless holes have been cut in them. People are always going to copy the Pros, but they change their components every month! I just dont get some people...! I drilled my bike and got the grinder on it the other day. It was a laugh, my bike is lighter even if only marginally, it looks more interesting and the warranty was well out anyway. If your going to wait for components to die from fatigue due to holes you might as well look at all the threads about components without holes that also die while your waiting. Everything breaks eventually, if someone else has bought it, why shouldn't they? If it makes it just that fraction lighter and that's all you need to perform better on a ride then why not? Obviously cutting out large sections of down tubes and stuff is a bit silly, but theres nothing wrong with a random hole here and there. But yeah, heres my contribution, just a headtube and support braces so far, hedgehog logo is going to go too, gotta neaten the braces up as its currently just an angle grinder hole and then sort out the forks and dropouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 You also missed out being able to talk about it at rides and stuff, as well as it being different to everyone elses But of course! Oh, and to the guy with fur rim tape - thanks I was considering it, but now I know better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tyres can be silly heavy - a dual ply wide 26" tyre with wire bead at around 1200g is substantially weightier than a single ply thin tyre with a kevlar bead at nearer 600g The warranty on trials parts is rarely amazing, and generally after a year or so you won't have one anyway Removing a sensible amount of material from a headtube or similar is unlikely to be putting your health at risk any more than looking out of the window on a gloomy day only to see the other girls eating ice cream with the badgers Making a bike lighter isn't necessarily about getting an extra inch on your sidehops or anything like that, but it can make it easier to ride, or mean you can ride longer without getting tired which means you can ride more often/for longer People have been modifying bikes in loads of different ways for ages, but it's just becoming more common more recently and some people are doing it without actually thinking, removing material that might be needed, or in a way that generates stress risers in critical locations If it's not your bag, then don't do it baby LMAO! you've got too much time on ur hands! fair enough, i take your point. You'll just have to wait until u see my new bike when it comes Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I'd never actually drill any of my parts. Well, I've got no plans to at the moment. But after feeling how light my ciguena is with an atomlab rim on the back, it makes me wonder how light it would be with one of the V!Z 24" rims. In orange, of course I think if I were ever to drill anything, it would be parts that are very solid, such as the bashring. Edited June 10, 2008 by Revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted June 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 nice pic up there!! that looks very light indeed! more pcitures would be gooood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 As a random question, why don't tyre manufacturers produce lighter downhill style tyres (eg Maxxis Minion) with a kevlar bead instead of steel? Surely they'd just lay in a kevlar bead instead of steel, wouldn't really need any extra tooling. Might knock 100g or so off per tyre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmks88 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 how much can you get off with cutting out a piece from headtube? 50-70g? more? less? ive been thinking about it for a while, also sideholes to my front rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) As a random question, why don't tyre manufacturers produce lighter downhill style tyres (eg Maxxis Minion) with a kevlar bead instead of steel? Surely they'd just lay in a kevlar bead instead of steel, wouldn't really need any extra tooling. Might knock 100g or so off per tyre? They would be the same as folding tyres, so for trials, there's the risk that they pop off the rim Edited June 10, 2008 by Revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid creole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 They would be the same as folding tyres, so for trials, there's the risk that they pop off the rim that never happened when i had a big betty tyre, i think a maxxis with kevlar bead is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 that never happened when i had a big betty tyre, i think a maxxis with kevlar bead is a good idea. Someone was on about it happening in chit chat So long as the tyre's made tight, it'd stay on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 As a random question, why don't tyre manufacturers produce lighter downhill style tyres (eg Maxxis Minion) with a kevlar bead instead of steel? Surely they'd just lay in a kevlar bead instead of steel, wouldn't really need any extra tooling. Might knock 100g or so off per tyre? If your gonna use it for trials yer good idea, if your gonna use it for downhill you would die, the strain on the bead would be to high it's just pop out of the rim and death to you my deer friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 If your gonna use it for trials yer good idea, if your gonna use it for downhill you would die, the strain on the bead would be to high it's just pop out of the rim and death to you my deer friend. I ain't no deer son. Well this is a trials website and I was infact insinuating it would be for trials use, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'd take a couple off their hands if they were to produce them, that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 A lot of the reason DH tyres are made with a steel bead is that they're less likely to come off the rim when they do puncture, so you have a better chance of finishing the DH run. Revlar is stronger in tension than steel, so strength is not the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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