CurtisRider Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) Right i have been out of the trials scene for a while now and i miss hopping around so i am looking to invest in a new bike within the next monh. I have been looking at the onza spyo gyra as it fits the bill perfectly for what i would want apart from a few select components changes such as better cranks, tyres and some riser bars. The geo on tarty bikes says it is to be confirmed, so i'm assuming it is roughly right: Wheelbase: 1040mm Chainstay Length: 390mm BB Rise: 5mm Head Angle: 73 degrees would this be much dissimilar to the base ta26? Wheelbase: 1025mm Chainstay Length: 385mm BB Drop: 5mm Centre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: 685mm (27") Frame size: 9.25" (centre to centre) I seem to remember my base being a 1040...but i know its the reach that makes the difference more than wheelbase. The only differences seem to be positive ones, for example the bb rise and a touch extra length. I loved my old base so anything similar/better would be awesome I'm a spinny rider and like a flicky bike. The next thing is the brakes. I love v brakes, i bum them big style but have never used the onza ones. Are they worth using or should i order a set of deores/sd7s as a budget replacement? I cant justify the cost of ultimates again, however much i liked them. The same question goes for the levers, are these particularly nasty affairs or will they be ok? Wheels. What hubs are they? They appear to be bolted ones suggesting they are are the ones specced on the budget mods. Does this mean it has a 116 rear end? Are they 36h? What freewheel comes with it? presumably a dicta Does anybody know a rough weight for it? I can imagine the forks are a bit hefty! I cant think of any more questions really, i don't really want people to bother replying with 'its shit m8' unless its a justified answer. I'm not a harsh basher and it won't get used much, hence not spending a great deal. Edited June 6, 2008 by pauloliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) im no expert with 26 bikes, but all i will say is that you should look through the for sale sections as there is quite a few 26 bikes for sale at the moment, and im sure there was one for 300 quid i saw the other day. i made a topic trying to find a 26 and got lots of responses, have a little look at the ones in my topic before you go buying an onza that you will have to spend more money on by upgrading it. >>link<< i'll go look for that one i saw for 300 and try get you a link to it just found one for 200 quid, and if you like the flicky ness style riding then this is for you >>link<< hope ive helped Edited June 6, 2008 by Bearded Midget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 How about this for a start? Arent the old monty stocks short and flicky? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/monty-trials-bike_W0...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the suggestion but i have done/ am doing that. The trouble is everybody is selling nasty long bikes with nasty maguras and things i don't want i quite like the idea of a new bike as i know how its been treated! Aside from the brakes and freewheel, i have all the upgrades i need for this onza sitting in my shed! EDIT: and that monty is nice thanks but again, components are more than likely aged and most aren't to my choice i am very insistant on having v brakes and anything with 4 bolt mounts means i will need adaptors-thus increasing the seemingly cheap price of it Edited June 6, 2008 by pauloliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) i cant imagine the onza feeling very flicky though, those forks weigh a ton. unless youve got some replacements. also bear in mind youve gottu get a new stem to fit riser bars on there unless youve got some risers in 24mm clamp size. id prefer the zebdi as thats a pretty sweet bike. and with try-all rims and dual magguras its a steal for 200quid. thats not even including how good condition it looks in the pics Edited June 6, 2008 by Bearded Midget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) it has a front disc not dual maggys? admittedly that zebber does look a bargain, however i found the zebdi cramped? its a tad shorter than the base i think and the components are all wrong for me, brakes, bars and crank would all have to go. Rear rim is too wide for a v brake on that frame too i have bar, stem, cranks, pads, tyres and a rear hub all to go on the onza if i got it thanks for your help though! EDIT: Spec changes would be (already got them): spray paint Pashley forks crv rear pads, and rockpads front. Ground rims deore/sd7 arms and levers (pretty sure i have the levers) azonic dw 2.5 bars and a 90x15degree stem 10mm axle sealed bearing rear bmx hub if its 116mm spacing dmr moto digger tyres tryall freewheel carbon/ti seat with a homemade seatpost to fit possibly some premium lite cranks with the old style bash if they are lighter than the standard ones so it really wont be that bad! Edited June 6, 2008 by pauloliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 i'm surprised nobody actually can help maybe i should type like a spastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 i don't really want people to bother replying with 'its shit m8' unless its a justified answer. Ahem. I reckon if you're used to a bike with a decent spec (I.e. your old Base) then the Onza will feel gash. It's very 'budget' and it'll be heavy and poor quality. It might make a decent bike for a beginner (and it's a good price) but as an experienced rider I personally would get hella frustrated with it. Whereas you could buy a decent bike second hand and the biggest frustration would be the (easily changed) maguras? Just sayin', s'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 You missed a proper bargin of a base on ebay last night Paul, went for £65 or sumet thats if the seller actualy let it go for that price Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 maybe the zebdi was only cramped cus it had a stem that was too short? Someone on TF is selling a zebdi, i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Ahem. I reckon if you're used to a bike with a decent spec (I.e. your old Base) then the Onza will feel gash. It's very 'budget' and it'll be heavy and poor quality. It might make a decent bike for a beginner (and it's a good price) but as an experienced rider I personally would get hella frustrated with it. Whereas you could buy a decent bike second hand and the biggest frustration would be the (easily changed) maguras? Just sayin', s'all. thats more like it im not complaining at the advice given before it just didn't really answer my queries! as for the spec, i already have replacement parts for the sucky bits as mentioned before i would like more info on the frame, just seeing as it seems to have a few better features than the base like the horizontal dropouts and +5mm bb. also i didn't really have very high spec bikes before, just standard stuff really You missed a proper bargin of a base on ebay last night Paul, went for £65 or sumet thats if the seller actualy let it go for that price Adam i know i had it in my watched items, fooking ridiculous when there is a t raptor frame and forks making 50quid right now odd... maybe the zebdi was only cramped cus it had a stem that was too short? Someone on TF is selling a zebdi, i think well it had a 90mm which is my stem of preference as its just short enough for x ups, anything longer is horrid! there are brand new bases on ebay for 80posted so i may get a new frame and buy the rest of the parts i need secondhand rather than buying the newbuild. I shall keep my eyes peeled, no huge rush yet thanks to those who have replied so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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