Bearded Midget Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 how will these pedals be better than ordinary magnesium pedals, im aware of the ti but surely they cant be much stronger?. because ive never snapped/cracked/bent any pedals in my life time, all ive done is lost the odd pin. the only difference i have noticed is that if you spend an extra 100quid you can save 62grams from the trial-tech magnesium pedals.........surely you have to be blind and buy them accidently rather than buying other magnesium pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 how will these pedals be better than ordinary magnesium pedals, im aware of the ti but surely they cant be much stronger?. because ive never snapped/cracked/bent any pedals in my life time, all ive done is lost the odd pin. the only difference i have noticed is that if you spend an extra 100quid you can save 62grams from the trial-tech magnesium pedals.........surely you have to be blind and buy them accidently rather than buying other magnesium pedals Losing weight costs a lot of money, titanium is roughly 55% the weight of steel but as strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Losing weight costs a lot of money, titanium is roughly 55% the weight of steel but as strong 62grams is hardly worth spending another 100quid for though, they may aswell just make a magnesium pedal but a little bit smaller if anyones that desperate to get a pair of pedals less than 300g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Mg-1 Titanium axles are £65 and are available to buy in the UK, so the ti axle costs a fair bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Losing weight costs a lot of money, titanium is roughly 55% the weight of steel but as strong it may be just over half the weight of steel, but it certainly isnt as strong! just has a higher strength per unit mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 LMAO, 150 quid for pedals, mine were a 10er and ive had them more than a year, only 1 pins out, jesus. id rather drill my shins to save weight than buy them pedals. Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 You couldnt even ride your bike as a trials bike if you had £150 pedals in , youd be well too wary of hitting them or seven leaning them on the floor, unless you were loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 CRC But don't forget neither Koxx nor tarty has the same luxuarys of economys of scale that companys like Welgo and CRC have... unsupprisingly that can make a massive difference. Like Maccy D VS a single fast food restuarant. Also Koxx's image is expensive, like me sitting here in a Fred Perry Tee which cost me 30quid but im sure i could get the same tee without a logo for under a fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 A lack of raw materials is likely to push up the retail price of bikes between eight and ten per cent this year according to word coming out of this year’s Taipei International Cycle Show. The shortage in butyl – used to make inner tubes – has resulted in a 42% price increase, with tyre prices as well as other components also set to increase. Chinese steel plants which are due to close before and during the Olympics in order to reduce the air pollution are also likely to cause uncertainty within the bike industry. Their closure will result in a shortage of the steel upon which the industry still remains so dependent. So, if the news coming out of the Far East is to be believed, you may not want to delay the purchase of that new bike very much longer. Un-related, but there was also this on the same page... In a ruling that could set a worrying precedent for British cycle importers, an East Sussex bike importer has been found liable for an accident which left a mountain bike rider with serious head injuries. Alan Ide, formerly a self-employed accountant and now aged 49, crashed while riding his 1999 model Marin Rift Zone down a hill in the South Downs in 2002. He was found unconscious next to his bike from which the left handlebar had been sheared. He subsequently sued ATB Sales of St Leonards-on-Sea under the UK’s Consumer Protection Act which renders importers liable for any defective goods they sell. The action was brought on the grounds that the company sold a bike with handlebars that were defective as a result of faulty manufacturing and that suffered a catastrophic failure while Mr Ide was riding under normal conditions. Mr Ide lost his sense of taste and smell and suffers from impaired memory and concentration as a result of the accident. ATB Sales, however, had claimed the damage to the bars could have occurred as a result of the impact as the rider lost control and crashed. At the original trial in July 2007 a judge found in favour of Mr Ide, after which ATB Sales appealed on the basis that the judge was not entitled to conclude that Mr Ide had proven his case, simply on the basis that the alternative scenario of the bar breaking upon impact had been rejected. In his ruling Lord Justice Thomas disagreed and said that the orginal judge, Mr Justice Gray, “did not use any impermissible train of reasoning” in reaching his conclusion. The ruling clears the way for Mr Ide to claim substantial damages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 We'll we ever see a cage pedal with titanium axles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Un-related, but there was also this on the same page... So his bars were 3 years old and they snapped? fair enough he was riding along but come on . . losing taste and smell must be prettay shitty in fairness though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Mg-1 Titanium axles are £65 and are available to buy in the UK, so the ti axle costs a fair bit. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Un-related, but there was also this on the same page... Sounds like a totally BS case... Surely if the bars were faulty the buck stops at the bar manufacturer. What are the importers supposed to do? X-ray every bike and component they sell and carry out strict metallurgical tests to ensure nothing ever breaks in the lifetime of the bicycle? Impossible. I'm sure all bikes come with stickers and instructions ensuring the rider knows that bikes are inherently dangerous and any failure due to 'mistreatment' (which can usually be taken as riding off a kerb) is the responsibility of the rider and not of the manufacturer (or of course retailer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I have some Mag cage, Ti axel platform pedals to sample on their way to me. Pleased to see the anticipated retail. Should have them in about three weeks. Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Mag cages? Danger, surely? Like how the pins 'n' stuff strip out of magnesium bodies 'cos they're softer, I'd have thought mag cages would've bent easier than the regular cages do? We'll see I guess. The whole point about the VP double cage pedals was that they were so cheap it didn't matter that if you broke them, which you undoubtebly would, so I wouldn't have thought adding a bigger price tag would've been desireable. But yeah, like I said, we'll see how they go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I suspect he means mag body, ti axle A bit confusing as he mentions mag cage platform pedals int he same sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Whats wrong the idea of alu cage pedals with titanium axles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 If you mean 'alu cage' in the style of VP double cages, the main problem I'd see is that the cages would snap really easily? My cages bent all the time, so if they were alu, I'd imagine they'd crack/snap pretty fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 If you mean 'alu cage' in the style of VP double cages, the main problem I'd see is that the cages would snap really easily? My cages bent all the time, so if they were alu, I'd imagine they'd crack/snap pretty fast.I guess the only option is an alu body, steel cages, with ti axles. and maybe ti bolts to secure the cages to the main pedal body. the ultimate cage pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid creole Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 the cages are already made of aluminium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I guess the only option is an alu body, steel cages, with ti axles. and maybe ti bolts to secure the cages to the main pedal body. the ultimate cage pedal. Yeah. However, then your still left with - cage pedals are wank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 They're f**king rediculous. Just cos they're french wanky try-all shit, they can charge stupid amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 the cages are already made of aluminium. Really? I assumed they were steel 'cos of how pliable they are. Like how you can bend them into any shape you want (Inner cage sculptures ftw) - I didn't think a sheet of alu could handle that. They're f**king rediculous. Just cos they're french wanky try-all shit, they can charge stupid amounts. Read das thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Really? I assumed they were steel 'cos of how pliable they are. Like how you can bend them into any shape you want (Inner cage sculptures ftw) - I didn't think a sheet of alu could handle that. It's more likely some b*****d alloy that someone has cooked up with all the scrap shite in the factory. I know my last cheapo set of pedals was something like that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid creole Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 yeah go on tarty and read the descriptions and also you can get some swanky try-all cages made of 7075 t6 aluminium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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