jay2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Good evening all, I have just got back into riding trials, loving it again and am riding a 20" Onza T-Bird. Problem - I am really struggling to find a decent height for getting up things, both sidehops and kicking up. Can anyone give me some pointers?? Thanks, Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Preload loads, jump and pull hard. Also, try to spend less time setting up on the back wheel - waste of energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Whilst on the subject as Im also looking to increase height on static hops... When you pedal kick, do you preload the pedals against the brake and then let it explode as potential energy once the brake is released; or do you release the brake and then give it a kick when jumping after preload? Something you would think I should know after riding trials for 8 years on and off :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 thanks for the advice Quackers, I think I understand! On that front, can somebody please explain this 'preload' to me, and as with you Forteh, I should have some sort of idea after on and off riding for probably about the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 When you pedal kick, do you preload the pedals against the brake and then let it explode as potential energy once the brake is released; or do you release the brake and then give it a kick when jumping after preload? i preload against the brake then carry on pushing through the pedals once i've released the brake On that front, can somebody please explain this 'preload' to me i'll give it a go ,its where you apply force to something before you attempt something ,lol thats the best i can do . if you watch a vid of say damon watson ,watch his rear tire before he hops /gaps ,he "preloads" his rear tire (you can see it squash down ) ,this gives him extra bounce . sorry for the crap explaination,i tried ,im sure someone who can explain better will post later. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 i preload against the brake then carry on pushing through the pedals once i've released the brake Ah so Im not going in completely the wrong direction About the preload, in my experience when on the back wheel there are 3 forms of preload you can use: - Tyre preload is as described above, where the tyre is compressed to give alittle extra bounce upwards. Pedal/drive preload is when you load the forward pedal whilst the back brake is locked on, this takes up any slack in the chain/freehub and allows your pedalkick to immediately drive the back wheel once the brak is released. Body preload is when you lower your arse over the back tyre and drop the front before jumping upwards. All three forms of preload need to be used at the correct time:) I know the theory, Im just crap at the technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Pedal/drive preload is when you load the forward pedal whilst the back brake is locked on, this takes up any slack in the chain/freehub and allows your pedalkick to immediately drive the back wheel once the brak is released. Body preload is when you lower your arse over the back tyre and drop the front before jumping upwards. Well I can't be going that wrong because I am doing that, just not as well as I need to it seems!! Thanks for the replies guys, I'll start trying harder me thinks! While I'm doing the 3rd degree does "Tucking" the bike up once you've left the deck help at all? jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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