Diz Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) If you're saying i'm looking down on people, its only the ones who criticise it i'm looking down on. I'm certainly in no position to judge anyone...i was at uni for 5 years...the best experimental years of my life! You've heard about the site "talk to frank"...i taught frank everything he knows. Edited June 13, 2008 by Diz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hahaha did u just say dope is more dangerous the e's? i think i would go read up on them both and edit your post... Your view on that comes only from your own personal experiences with the drugs, apart from long comedowns, and problems with the little fella, ive never seen anyone have any major problems with taking any of these "bad" "lame" "stupid" drugs as you put such as cocaine, ectasy or MDMA. i know of people whove had bad experiences on them. but im currently having pretty crap nights out on the booze, and my hangovers are getting seriously bad, to the point where im thinking of stopping drinking. whereas "weed/dope" as you put it, ive seen 2 instances of weed pyschosis first hand, and seen it pretty much ruin a family. not going to say ecstasy's not more dangerous than dope. but it goes far past 3 of your mates chillin out watchin TV with a joint in hand on a thursday night. As for the person making out that MDMA is way more dangerous than ectasy. a drug of fairly high purity, from a dealer you know, who always has the same supplier, and its pretty much always the same strength against a pill from a batch you havent seen or tried before as the dealer you know gets different batches many times a year. , might be nothing more than a 10 minute head rush, or could stick you in a K hole till 4am tomorrow morning. and to mr dyslexic.... take time over your post, re read it, or simply spell check it, takes a bit of time to do, but surely its easy than an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 careful tylert, expect abuse from your opinion in here, its only accepted if youve lived around the drug for 800years and have a sound knowledge in moleculal chemistry and its effect on the human body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 At tomturds house? I was thinking that we should all sit at our respective computers, create an "ecstacy thread", drop some pills or mdma and than post messages to one another. Sounds banging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 careful tylert, expect abuse from your opinion in here, its only accepted if youve lived around the drug for 800years and have a sound knowledge in moleculal chemistry and its effect on the human body It's not that you don't have adequate experience, you are just really, really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 careful tylert, expect abuse from your opinion in here, its only accepted if youve lived around the drug for 800years and have a sound knowledge in moleculal chemistry and its effect on the human body he must also have the knowledge of how a colourblind animal also experiences brighter coloured grey's whilst on ectasy. wasnt so much abuse of him, just he was the one from the most recent page, but theres plenty of other people here whove done the same and basically said. "drugs are for losers, anyone who needs drugs is a total idiot, but weeds ok, as it doesnt hurt anyone, pills and mdma turn everyone into the dregs of society" without really having ever seen anyone on pills apart from the chav idiots at the local park. who are idiots, no matter what there taking, and a couple of mates who are sound, who smoke weed. im not pro drugs, or anti drugs, ive had extremes of both experiences on them, but at no point whilst on them, do i think it personally changed me as a person. I just get annoyed with the people who stereotype takers of hard drugs, as those who are weak in the mind, or unable to have a good time without them. who will end up homeless robbing people. and then saying that a bit of weed wont do you no harm. Weed's just as bad as any other recreational drug, if used to extremes. And if used sensibly whilst experimenting in your youth, that a pill, or a line, wont turn you into a street robber. I personally dislike pills, as to me they dont seem to have any appeal, and never intend to start taking them for a saturday night out. but it doesnt mean that i think any less of the people on them, or that they shouldnt be taken. (in the same way i think of sushi as pretty repulsive, but i dont think that a sushi eaters going to vomit all over me, or that sushi should be banned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Plus you're forgetting the links with cannabis and its positive effects on various medical conditions such as multiple schlerosis, epilepsy and spasms. Its also been used for thousands of years to reduce vomitting and nausea. I don't really get why people say things like that, as if it proves some point? The use of cannabis in those conditions is controversial at best but that's not the point either. I'm assuming that you don't have any of those conditions, so surely what you're saying is irrelevant? By way of an example - You can use the product from the bark of a certain tree to treat cancer. So it's "natural" (like cannabis) and it's very effective in treating certain conditions. Would I eat it for fun? No! It's very toxic and dangerous. Not everything that's "natural" is good for you... Likewise ancient peoples have used anything they can find as a 'remedy'. Burning, draining blood etc. But we now know that these treatments at best do no good, at worst are very harmful. Obviously you're entitled to your opinion on this. But in my opinion, the only sensible choice is to look at the medical evidence. The stats don't lie! Unless of course you actually believe there's some kind of government conspiracy to demonise cannabis, in which case you might want to ask where that paranoia has come from, and if you should cut down on the spliffs As for weed being more dangerous than pills thats absolute rubbish! All this talk about it causing schizophrenia is crap! Its just that some people are genetically predisposed to the condition. It could be brought on by anything, its just the fact that the government are getting tough on drugs that they got a load of so called "experts" to say there "could" be a link. Er yeah. See above point I think. Don't be thinking that I'm against smoking cannabis or whatever. I really don't care in the slightest whether other people smoke it. But don't bullshit as if cannabis is the best thing since sliced bread, and completely risk-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 To support what trials_pink previously said, I also have known people who've suffered cannabis psychosis. One in particular was telling his friend how he had been protecting his house from the bunnymen that been hanging around whilst he was away on holiday. Almost seems funny except this guy went from being one of those highly popular, intelligent and confident people into somebody who unforunately lost all those things and struggles to function in a way that most would consider basic. His mum actually said that it would have been better for him to have been a heroin addict because at least heroin wouldn't have caused the permanent brain damage that he suffered. He wasn't even a heavy smoker. My experiences with people on ecstacy and adverse affects have been at most, depression and anxiety and which were resolved by not taking ecstacy and addressing their undelying mental health. However, I do know a chap that decided to do about 25 pills one night and had to have a catheter placed in his urethra due to the fact he hadn't urinated for a prolonged period (perhaps days). Supposedly his physical situation hasn't been right since. In fact, I'm also told he likes to chat with the pigeons in our local park. Regardless though, the simple fact of the matter is millions of people do these things and yet there's no reports of an epidemic - only sporadic events. Despite which is more dangerous as a outermost potential, the chances of it going wrong for you is extremely slim unless you're like the fellow I mentioned who went overboard and can no longer piss properly and likes to talk to pigeons - not that I have a problem with pigeons. If you think something should be banned due to the potential dangerous that can be brought out of it and which almost definitely aren't there with sensible usage, then you're on you way to criminalising everything and living in cotton wool world. I'd rather take a gamble than atrophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 And with that, we're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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