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I did say LONG TERM repercussions.

I quite clearly did not suggest that taking pills makes you psychotic within a week, although considering psychosis is a state in which a person loses touch with reality, its not That far fetched to suggest that drugs can result in psychotic behaviour.

I was hoping my opinions wouldnt be interpreted in such a simplistic way, but what can you do

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I think there's an awful lot of hatred going on in this thread...perhaps we should all take a pill and feel the love :giggle: .

But no, seriously, i understand that there can be long term repercussions to the use of "recreational" drugs, but as an adult you're given free choice to make up your own mind.

I would never advise someone to take drugs, that sort of decision can only be made by the person in question. I do however resent the narrowminded opinion of others saying that anyone who takes drugs is a loser and obviously cant have a good time without them.

I havent done anything for a long time, i did most of my experimenting through my uni days. I dont regret trying what i have and i bloody enjoyed it at the time. If everyone went around living "safely" there's a high chance nothing would have ever been done.

Take for example planes. If they decided not to make them because some ministers or whatever said there was a chance of death, we wouldnt be able to travel very far, or very fast. I know its not exactly the same thing but you get the idea.

My mum says trials isnt very safe, which i understand, but as an adult ive made the decision to ignore her and take my chances. Its the same with drugs. Those who haven't tried it are in no position to judge, but by all means add your opinion.

On a final note, as a number of other people have been saying, alcohol and tobacco are by far the worst drugs available...and its legal. The only reason its not banned is because the government make so much money from taxation. A high proportion of crimes, assault etc are caused by those under the influence of alcohol. And of course its not without its long term repercussions. Liver schlerosis for one. As with tobacco, lung disease etc.

Its about time everyone just accepted that people have different views and ideals and stop being so judgemental. We're all trials riders on this forum. Surely that means we're all living for the same reason.

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who gives a f**k what other people do.

dont tell people what to do, its their life, live it how you want.

drugs are part of growing up, well marijuana is. people who went to school and grew up without trying it once havent lived.

dont care what you say, its fun whilst your young and dont give a f**k, when your older got pills to pay, car, and all the daily stuff and your spendin money on drugs your a twat!

never tried anything other than weed and never will. and sometimes its not even the peoples choice, you get stuck with the wrong people and before you know it your taking it on a daily basis.

people who are young and still in school and havent tried weed, go out, buy some get a group of mates, a cd player, loads of drink and food and go in a field and smoke like you havent smoked before.

if you dont enjoy it then you are one boring f**k!

:) take drugs, just dont over do it!

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who gives a f**k what other people do.

dont tell people what to do, its their life, live it how you want.

drugs are part of growing up, well marijuana is. people who went to school and grew up without trying it once havent lived.

dont care what you say, its fun whilst your young and dont give a f**k, when your older got pills to pay, car, and all the daily stuff and your spendin money on drugs your a twat!

never tried anything other than weed and never will. and sometimes its not even the peoples choice, you get stuck with the wrong people and before you know it your taking it on a daily basis.

people who are young and still in school and havent tried weed, go out, buy some get a group of mates, a cd player, loads of drink and food and go in a field and smoke like you havent smoked before.

if you dont enjoy it then you are one boring f**k!

:) take drugs, just dont over do it!

Intentional? :P

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My view on illegal drugs, by way of a pro/con list

PRO - yes, if you're lucky, ecstasy or other choice drug may enhance your good time

CON - it may make you feel like shit

CON - who knows where it came from and exactly whats in it? (pill from a little plastic bag in some dodgy blokes pocket doesnt exactly come with a quality guarantee)

CON - because of said dodginess, there is the chance you might just die

CON - long term repercussions (mental health problems later in life, eg schizophrenia from cannabis use, the risk of dependency)

CON - you are supporting an illegal market, most probably benefitting some horrible scumbag who really doesnt deserve it.

CON - having said little pill in own pocket may result in Mr law enforcement being rather annoyed at you.

CON - drug of choice may well hav been up someones arse to allow safe transportation. No thankyou.

Despite being correct, where i 100% agree, there are always going to be mongy piss monkey's who argue the case...

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who gives a f**k what other people do.

dont tell people what to do, its their life, live it how you want.

drugs are part of growing up, well marijuana is. people who went to school and grew up without trying it once havent lived.

dont care what you say, its fun whilst your young and dont give a f**k, when your older got pills to pay, car, and all the daily stuff and your spendin money on drugs your a twat!

never tried anything other than weed and never will. and sometimes its not even the peoples choice, you get stuck with the wrong people and before you know it your taking it on a daily basis.

people who are young and still in school and havent tried weed, go out, buy some get a group of mates, a cd player, loads of drink and food and go in a field and smoke like you havent smoked before.

if you dont enjoy it then you are one boring f**k!

:) take drugs, just dont over do it!

Sorry it may just be me but reading through that it appears as though you've contradicted yourself.

Like you said at the start of your post it is peoples choice and if they choose not to take drugs then good on them. It is our choice after all and I don't feel as though I've missed out on anything in life or led a boring life purely because I've never taken drugs... I have other ways of enjoying myself and I'd much rather do them in a normal state of mind which has in no way been influenced by the use of drugs.

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Despite being correct, where i 100% agree, there are always going to be mongy piss monkey's who argue the case...

Like Moi. I like the way he surmised all the "good" qualities of ecstacy into one (as a potential) then listed individually all of the bad qualities as though they desrved to be stated outside of the general description of "bad". Makes it seem like there's a wholeeeee load of trouble associated with it but not really any good :)

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there is....

They have the potential to pleasure you, which will amount to nothing that would change your life in a positive way other than your feelings for however long the drug lasts.

Then they have the potential to destroy a life or cause major negative effects that could last a lifetime.

I don't think i'm going to enduldge in this particular discussion much more though, as it's not something i'll budge on. I'm happy with my choices to never touch drugs, and i've never missed them. I don't agree with them, i don't like them, but then i don't mind that people love them either, so i don't have any strong feelings IF the choice to use drugs is made despite knowing the risks. Going into it with open eyes means at least you live by your choice rather than being naive or blind to it.

Ognob

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there is....

They have the potential to pleasure you, which will amount to nothing that would change your life in a positive way other than your feelings for however long the drug lasts.

Then they have the potential to destroy a life or cause major negative effects that could last a lifetime.

I don't think i'm going to enduldge in this particular discussion much more though, as it's not something i'll budge on. I'm happy with my choices to never touch drugs, and i've never missed them. I don't agree with them, i don't like them, but then i don't mind that people love them either, so i don't have any strong feelings IF the choice to use drugs is made despite knowing the risks. Going into it with open eyes means at least you live by your choice rather than being naive or blind to it.

Ognob

That's fair enough you aren't interested but then I guess your resulting lack of experience would explain your unknowing of the way in which the overall potential positives can be divided into sub-components like the way the potential negatives can be. I'll state some positives for you though.

Increased physical pleasure

Greater capacity for love and empathy

Shift in perception leading to intellectual development

Release of worries, concerns, etc.

Confidence increase

Greater appreciation of music or visual aspects of experience

Improved and more honest capacity for introspection and self-understanding

Interestingly on the last point, mdma was used for marriage councilling (succesfully I might add) as was LSD (succesfully) used for treating psychological conditions. I even remember reading on a drugs website a girl was describing how she came to udnerstand she was a lesbian - this was a very positive thing for her and came about through this drug. The xperience is more complex and diverse than just saying "makes you feel good".

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