kid creole Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I think its pretty cool that a 16 year old has that attitude towards drugs, if only every kid had that attitude. there's better things to be doing with your life then taking drugs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Smoked spliff for too long, got with the girlfriend and stopped it. Took a few pills at the start of the year, first one was amazing, had a great night out, went home with my girlfriend, lay in bed for a few hours talking, having sexy time, talking some more etc. Maybe only took 4 after that on separate nights and each time it just got crapper and crapper, I wasn't about to start taking more than one to get a hit so havn't had any since. Starting to go off booze now aswell....... EDIT: I hate drug discussions, especially those surrounding cannabis. Especially when they talk about 'superskunk' I know myself and a fair few mates would rather smoke less of a strong thing, than more shit? In the same way, i'd rather have a tiny bit of pure extacy (MDMA) than say two or three pills. Edited June 3, 2008 by Jakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom aky Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 The only things i know are from PSHE at school and what i mean is that when i go to friends houses and i drink i dont let me drink go outta me sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 The only things i know are from PSHE at school and what i mean is that when i go to friends houses and i drink i dont let me drink go outta me sight. Precisely, you honestly think teachers are gonna give a balanced argument rather then just being like 'drugs are baadddd, last year someone died taking ecstacy :o'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Precisely, you honestly think teachers are gonna give a balanced argument rather then just being like 'drugs are baadddd, last year someone died taking ecstacy :o'? QFT. So SFTU and GTFO, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. This thread - if you read it - is not about opinions and heresay, it's about clarifying the facts. Most people who have been proved wrong have held their hands up and maturely agreed, I suggest you do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran@ZSClothing Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You don't actually know though, you're just coming in here putting your facts across when you don't actually know. You're 16, wait until you're 18/19 or even 21 and then post in this kind of thread. You ride a bike, you could easily have an accident on that... everything we do carries risks. Yeah not worth taking them at your age i started taking ecstasy when i was 15 and got rely paranoid and started seeing shit just in my normal days messed with my head abit. But still fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrico Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Bear with me on this, i cant get what i want to say in words but ill give it ago. I dont do drugs. never will just something which doesnt interest me, and yes i do drink. Alot of my friends do Ecstasy and i can understand why they do it, but I'm not sure if its just my situation but from 3-4 months use of pills (pretty much every weekend) allot of friends are still pretty messy in the head and they stopped doing them 5 months ago. I'm not saying its the same for everyone but things like that really put me off. I think the problem with drugs is the lack of societies knowledge, eg. at school you learn how alcohol is ok in small doses yet the tiniest bit of Ecstasy is bad when really as people say, its not as bad as alcohol. I'm not 100% clued up on the side affects on drugs so wont go in to that but if i remember quickly abuse of drugs affects you quicker and worse than abuse of alcohol?? (not totally sure) The only reason alcohol is seen as acceptable is because of the government, think about it alcohol is controlled; has to pass safety standards which makes it pretty 'safe' or 'clean'. If the government made exactasy legal over the counter eventually it would be socially ok. If it was legal over the counter it would be pure, cleaner and possibly weaker and the societies knowledge on drugs would increase. Obviously it wont ever happen but i think its and interesting idea. Edited June 4, 2008 by ocirderf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Of course, the real killer is Cake. That's worse than all the other drugs put together. One young girl took Cake, and puked up her own pelvic bone. Imagine how her poor mother felt. It's a f'cking disgrace. And don't forget the dreadful possibility of "Check Neck"; where you're neck can swell up over your face Edited June 4, 2008 by ManxTrialSpaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Precisely, you honestly think teachers are gonna give a balanced argument rather then just being like 'drugs are baadddd, last year someone died taking ecstacy :o'? There's a lot of people in this thread (I'm not trying to single you out) who are putting across a very biased viewpoint to the 'positives' of drugs. If people don't want to take ecstasy, I don't think they should be bullied by older members of the forum until they agree. They're entitled to an opinion, even if it's different to yours. As much as you might enjoy drugs, I don't think anyone would say that drug use is a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom aky Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) What ever im not interested in what you have to say about me. And appreciate the support Tomm. Edited June 4, 2008 by tom aky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 not one person in here has said that drugs are a great idea and people should try them... I was addicted to coke for 6 months, ran up £2500 worth of ticks and had to get parents to bail me out. Drugs are NOT cool, but that doesnt mean people should be discriminated against because they want to play in them. *i at no point fought, stole or raped during said addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I didn't say that though, did I? I just said that drugs shouldn't necessarily be positively encouraged to younger members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 again, i dont think anyone has positively encouraged any use. I'll gladly be proved wrong on that one though. The point I'm making is that it's dangerous in both directions - having no education on the subject doesnt make someone anymore right than knowing all the facts. But that's the point, everyone should be interested in the FACTS - that's what agreeable opinions are made of. I personally have no problem with someones opinion totally anti drugs as long as it's well informed. I wont profess to know the facts, which is why I haven't spouted any - I only know my own experiences and I haven't at any point said "I didn't OD, so it's not possible" whereas other members are putting across that "if you take drugs you'll DIE" or "people who take drugs are f**kfaces". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 As above, nobody has actually encouraged any drug in here, just informed that taking them is highly unlikely to kill you, and that alcohol isn't without it's dangers but that's deemed 'ok'. So people who come on with notions that drugs will more than likely kill you, everytime, clearly have no idea, so us more informed members are just correcting them. That not to say all of us with a balanced view are hardened 'druggies' or have ever even taken anything like E (myself and Onzaboymark for example) but have enough knowledge to know that it's not the danger drug the media/schools would have us believe. And that's what we're trying to put across. I don't think that's encouraging it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 my personal view is that drugs of any type are stupid and for people who have lives that are boring they need drugs to stimulate them so they can actually enjoy themself's, there are easier ways to enjoy yourself, get laid or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 my personal view is that drugs of any type are stupid and for people who have lives that are boring they need drugs to stimulate them so they can actually enjoy themself's, there are easier ways to enjoy yourself, get laid or something. Getting laid is great, getting laid when you're high is even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 my personal view is that drugs of any type are stupid and for people who have lives that are boring they need drugs to stimulate them so they can actually enjoy themself's, there are easier ways to enjoy yourself, get laid or something. I'm starting to get really pissed off with this thread. Implying that people who take drugs have a boring life is a needless attack. Implying that they take drugs because they can't get laid is a needless attack (plus I doubt anyone would agree that getting laid is easier than popping a pill!). Oh, and just to be overly pedantic because the uneducated are going to prove themselves retarded in their lack of even the simplest facts: drugs of any type are stupid Paracetemol? Aspirin? Diazipam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I don't think its encouragement, i think it's giving the person the correct fact's so they can themselves make an informed decision as to whether to take extra substances or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 There's a lot of people in this thread (I'm not trying to single you out) who are putting across a very biased viewpoint to the 'positives' of drugs. If people don't want to take ecstasy, I don't think they should be bullied by older members of the forum until they agree. They're entitled to an opinion, even if it's different to yours. As much as you might enjoy drugs, I don't think anyone would say that drug use is a virtue. That may have been partially aimed at me. For the record, I'm not condoning drug use and definitely not trying to make people do it, just trying to get the point across that the media, teachers, adults etc... put across a very blurred message about drugs. I'd like to bet that the risks involved in a heavy drinking session are the same as taking Ecstacy. Most 18-19 year old guys go out and get really drunk at the weekend, and those people have got into more trouble than my pill taking friends - in fact, the only trouble my friends have ever got in was being tired through staying up all night... Like I said before I don't do drugs, I don't need them to have a good time. I'm not promoting drugs either. It just annoys me how 15/16 year olds say "DRUGS KILL YOU". When all they've read is a half untrue newspaper story or heard from a bald old man in a school lesson (Who probably couldn't even tell you the colour of a tablet if it wasn't printed in his book). All I'm trying to say is don't just spout out crap because it's what you've been told... I'd hate all Muslims, gays, people that wear hoodies, single parents etc. if I believed everything I read in the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 All I'm trying to say is don't just spout out crap because it's what you've been told... I'd hate all Muslims, gays, people that wear hoodies, single parents etc. if I believed everything I read in the papers. Only if you read the daily mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Only if you read the daily mail. LOL, well yeah, but all newspapers lie Don't get me started on the Daily Mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY-E Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 'join us next week on "Drugs - and how to take them" with Toby...' yea man feel free to add me on msn. talktofrankbot@hotmail.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 There's a lot of people in this thread (I'm not trying to single you out) who are putting across a very biased viewpoint to the 'positives' of drugs. If people don't want to take ecstasy, I don't think they should be bullied by older members of the forum until they agree. They're entitled to an opinion, even if it's different to yours. As much as you might enjoy drugs, I don't think anyone would say that drug use is a virtue. ------------------------- I didn't say that though, did I? I just said that drugs shouldn't necessarily be positively encouraged to younger members. People aren't being bullied into doing drugs through this thread, and drugs themselves aren't being encouraged, just being more open-minded with regards to people's lifestyle choices are. Like with Smo saying that my friend and his friends must be 'f**k faces' or whatever he said, purely because every now and again they do some pills - how can you justify that? If people are actually feeling peer-pressure to take drugs from this thread on an internet messageboard, God help them when they actually go out to a club themselves... my personal view is that drugs of any type are stupid and for people who have lives that are boring they need drugs to stimulate them so they can actually enjoy themself's, there are easier ways to enjoy yourself, get laid or something. Only addicts have to take drugs to enjoy themselves. People who do pills/coke on the weekend do it just to make it more enjoyable. I don't really get how you can differentiate between people needing to drink on weekends with people dropping pills or anything like that. At the end of the day, the aim is to be in a different place mentally (so to speak). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 There's a lot of people in this thread (I'm not trying to single you out) who are putting across a very biased viewpoint to the 'positives' of drugs. If people don't want to take ecstasy, I don't think they should be bullied by older members of the forum until they agree. They're entitled to an opinion, even if it's different to yours. As much as you might enjoy drugs, I don't think anyone would say that drug use is a virtue. I wasn't going to reply because i think others have already argued that point pretty well. And i know that you weren;t trying to single me out but i'd like to say that i haven't once even stated my opinion in this thread so can't be bullying people into it or whatever I've merely pointed out corrections in what other people have said when someone has said something blatantly wrong etc. Like someone who said dealers involvedi n drugs probably aren't clever enough or whatever, which is just a blatant assumption and i think people might find that if they met any dealers they would realise that's bull. For the record, i don't do 'drugs' (as in the conventional, pills, weed etc etc) myself. Alot of my friends do but it's just never felt 'right' to me. I've never looked at a pill i've been offered and thought, 'yer i really wanna try that' otherwise i would have straight up. But it seems to me that the people pointing out the negatives of drugs are the ones with the biased viewpoint in this thread? There often isn't reasoning or experience behind any of the arguments and that's what i think is a bit wierd. Sure, have your own opinion, just make sure it's YOUR opinion rather then that of that grey haird Mr Page guy that taught a few half arsed PSE lessons during registration in year 8. Funny Fact: 2 of the main drug dealers round these parts are BMXers Make of it what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckus_street Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 My view on illegal drugs, by way of a pro/con list PRO - yes, if you're lucky, ecstasy or other choice drug may enhance your good time CON - it may make you feel like shit CON - who knows where it came from and exactly whats in it? (pill from a little plastic bag in some dodgy blokes pocket doesnt exactly come with a quality guarantee) CON - because of said dodginess, there is the chance you might just die CON - long term repercussions (mental health problems later in life, eg schizophrenia from cannabis use, the risk of dependency) CON - you are supporting an illegal market, most probably benefitting some horrible scumbag who really doesnt deserve it. CON - having said little pill in own pocket may result in Mr law enforcement being rather annoyed at you. CON - drug of choice may well hav been up someones arse to allow safe transportation. No thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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