PaRtZ Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Please sign here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Signed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Signed, but something about piss and wind springs to mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Signed, There is more chance of MP's giving up their salaries but heyho, worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I hear that reducing the tax on petrol will also 100%, most definitely, categorically get OPEC to lower the price of oil per barrel, and erradicate the shortage of oil in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 You actually think this is worth doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 It will make arse all difference, I signed it anyway. yeah, what he says, but what have you got to lose from signing it, other than 2 minutes of your life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 someone forwarded this to me last week on facebook, didn't think it'd make a difference but it didn't hurt to spend 2 mins to fill it in.. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I hear that reducing the tax on petrol will also 100%, most definitely, categorically get OPEC to lower the price of oil per barrel, and erradicate the shortage of oil in general. I heard that too. It gives me hope that the government can influence large companies like OPEC. Or was it the other way round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Signed, but something about piss and wind springs to mind... Same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 yeah, what he says, but what have you got to lose from signing it, other than 2 minutes of your life... People signing things like this are the reason so many idiotic petitions with no real use are created, so in a way by signing it you are losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Are you aware they don't make massively unpopular decisions (at a time when they're currently fully in need of support from the public) just for the hell of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Im not going to sign it as its pointless as the potition will do jack shit. And the tax is there for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Bowel Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 And the tax is there for a reason. i think your a brown basher if i'm honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon rider Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Im not going to sign it as its pointless as the potition will do jack shit. And the tax is there for a reason. Do you actually drive? I've only been driving 2.5 years and I've seen fuel go up about 30p a litre, which is madness. when you start driving paying 85p ish then only 30 months down the line its gone to 115p, makes you think something has gone wrong that needs sorting. Even that petition, feeble as it may seem, may as well be signed. 50 ish % tax, to me, seems mad, thats all I'm trying to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
531joshua Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) Signed it. Hope petrol prices go down. I have a 125cc motorbike and even though it gets 70 - 90 mpg I think running it is expensive. Ridiculous the price of petrol now. Edited May 29, 2008 by 531joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=OPEC+pric...lient=firefox-a http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business...ice-834656.html Gordon Brown will face renewed pressure this week to suspend the fuel duty rise due to come into force in October as an attack on an oil pipeline in Nigeria yesterday pushed up crude prices yet again. No help is likely to come from Opec. The president of the cartel, which controls almost 40 per cent of the world's supply of oil, denied responsibility yesterday for spiralling oil prices and ruled out an increase in production in the near future. Although there was a dip from the record high of $135 a barrel at the start of last week, yesterday's sabotage of a Royal Dutch Shell pipeline in the Niger Delta by an anti-government group pushed prices back up beyond $133. Shell confirmed the incident on the Nembe Creek trunkline, resulting in the closure of some of its production in the area. Sabotage is a growing problem for the production industry, and the oil price. Nigeria is the world's eighth biggest exporter, but production has dropped by a quarter since 2006 due to problems caused by militants. Shell alone has seen production cut by up to 164,000 barrels per day this year due to sabotage of pipelines and pumping stations. Opec is an even greater influence on prices. But the cartel has countered suggestions that it is to blame for oil prices which have doubled in the past 12 months. Chakib Khelil, the president of Opec and Algerian energy minister, said yesterday the group will not be taking any measures before the next official meeting scheduled for September, and even then it is unlikely to increase production, because there is no shortage in the oil market. Prices will continue to rise because the falling US dollar is prompting traders to invest in commodities, particularly oil, instead, Mr Khelil said. But currency weaknesses and other issues – such as geopolitical problems – which push up the value of oil are beyond the the cartel's control. "If Opec decides to raise production ... these hikes will not really lower the price," Mr Khelil told a Spanish national radio station. Global demand for oil runs to around 87 million barrels per day, of which about a quarter is used by the US. Despite rising requirements, particularly in swiftly industrialising countries such as China, production has stagnated for the past two years. This month, the International Energy Agency revised its estimates of the future capacity of the oil industry downwards from 116 million barrels per day by 2030 to fewer than 100 million. All of which offers little cheer to the Prime Minister. The planned fuel duty increases of 2p per litre have already brought hauliers out on the street once, in April. The duty is planned for October, so the rising oil prices are more due to the massive price increases being created by OPEC (Click the Google link). THAT is what is causing petrol to rise, and a crappy online petition won't do anything about it. They had one relating to a skatepark before that was replied to as though it was applying for a grant for an art museum. There was one about photography that they pretty much said they literally couldn't give less of a shit about. People voting over something the government is barely controlling on a petition website designed to keep people quiet by clicking on meaningless buttons ISN'T going to reduce the price of petrol or diesel in the UK. If hundreds of lorry drivers parking on the A40 yesterday isn't going to do anything, what is clicking on that going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon rider Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 The duty is planned for October, so the rising oil prices are more due to the massive price increases being created by OPEC (Click the Google link). THAT is what is causing petrol to rise, and a crappy online petition won't do anything about it. They had one relating to a skatepark before that was replied to as though it was applying for a grant for an art museum. There was one about photography that they pretty much said they literally couldn't give less of a shit about. People voting over something the government is barely controlling on a petition website designed to keep people quiet by clicking on meaningless buttons ISN'T going to reduce the price of petrol or diesel in the UK. If hundreds of lorry drivers parking on the A40 yesterday isn't going to do anything, what is clicking on that going to do? Makes people feel better. No harm in piece of mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Perhaps, but leaving all the blame at the door of the government seems a bit pointless. Knowing that it's not going to do much wouldn't give me much piece of mind, hence me not signing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 erm.... cooking oil? It's 99p a litre from Asda by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 erm.... cooking oil? It's 99p a litre from Asda by the way. if i had a diesel then yea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Well I'm on my moped which has a 7 litre tank, and I know its capable of around 120 miles to 5 litres of fuel, so if the price was brought down it would be a good way to save a bit of money. =D Would be nice to have more litres of petrol than pounds spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revell-Bikes Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 basically, i agree with the rise of petrol prices... it stops stupid young yobs/chavs driving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 basically, i agree with the rise of petrol prices... it stops stupid young yobs/chavs driving! Does it? Does anybody know if the price of driving lessons has increased due to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 True, to an extent. I just hope it means people think twice about making non-essential journeys in their cars. It's like people still don't see this as being the tip of the iceberg of us running out of oil (Meaning prices are going to get much, much higher), and think that it's their God-given right to be able to buy petrol for cheap as hell. It's a finite resource that we're getting really close to running out of. Warning signs like it becoming well expensive need to be heeded. Does it? Does anybody know if the price of driving lessons has increased due to this? I know of a few people who've raised their prices from £20 a lesson to £22 to cover fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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