Re-classification Of Cannabis

[boon racoon]

Drug classification in general is a bit of a joke. Don't think it'll really change too much either way! But if it does put a few younger people off it then good because at 16/17 you can easily lose yourself in weed and turn into a dopey idiot.

[frika]

I've smoked green since I was in year 10 at school (2001). Obviously my short term memory isn't as good as it could be, but apart from that.. I'm still the same me. Maybe if I had a gene in me for skitzophrenia (sp?) then the weed might trigger it off. I don't 'need' a spliff.. I jus like to have a joint and relax after a day at work! Plus it makes things more interesting.. For example, going to the zoo = boring. Getting stoned and going to the zoo = fun random day out!

Changing it to Class B will have little to no effect on anything.. People who like a smoke will still smoke as they did, and people who wanna try it will still try it. They'll just get in a little bit more trouble if they get caught.

Police should concentrate on the rapists, crack heads, armed robbers, pikeys, drunk fighters. immigrants etc..

[boon racoon]

Getting stoned and going to the zoo = fun random day out!

Getting HIGH and going to Alton Towers?

[Sneakers O'Toole]

For example, going to the zoo = boring. Getting stoned and going to the zoo = fun random day out!

The thing is though going to the zoo without being stoned can still be a fun day out. This easter me and my mates went to an industrial museum, tropical house and an art gallery all in one day. It's the sort of thing we used to do stoned because it was funny to giggle at stuff but i found that i had just as much fun going sober. I remember having conversations about this sort of stuff with people at school and i just used to say "oh well its more fun going bowling stoned" or whatever but i look back on it now and think well if i'd have been drunk insted of stoned people would have though i was a real loser and anyway i probably would have had just as much fun without nipping out for a smoke. Like i said earlier my perceptions of weed have changed alot and i no longer want to be like the person i was a few years ago. No offence intended to anyone else who enjoys a smoke and a day trip out though.

[Jolfa]

What actually happens if you are caught with it?

What happens in reality (not worst case scenario) if you are caught with weed, at worst all you'll have to do is throw it in a bush or hand it over to the 5-0, whether it's class B or C I've been caught with it as both classes too many times

[1a2bcio8]

I think it's a shame that my cannabis activities now place me at further risk of being unable to get a job from state punishment. I smoke and enjoy certain things to a higher (and amusing) intensity through doing so and it's great. That doesn't mean I require cannabis however. I smoke very infrequently these days.

I have to admit feeling slightly frustrated at some of your views, especially those that denigrate cannabis because you it doesn't interest you. It's kind've like me saying rollerblading is crap because I don't get it (enjoy it) and in that sense, other people shouldn't be doing it and should realise the same thing. If smoking cannabis serves you, makes you happy, then what does it matter? If you understood the activity in terms of the people that do enjoy it, you would probably do it yourself!

Just to illustrate a point over drug laws and their effects; several of my friends were arrested and charged with drug possession, taken to court and given community service and a criminal record. Beyond all their drug use (cannabis, ecstacy and ketamin), the part of that experience that most damaged or effected their mental health was the experience of the police, court and criminal record (struggling to find work). Does it make sense to cause me to have great difficulty finding a job for the next five years because I like to smoke cannabis once every couple of weeks?!

[Tomm]

The only reason it was reclassified is because of tabloid pressure, the governments own board of advisors [...] recommended against reclassification.

From what I understand, they said that on health grounds ONLY, there was no case for changing it back to Class B. They quoted something like you needed 5000 young people to smoke cannabis to get one new diagnosis of schizophrenia. Obviously schizophrenia is a very serious disease and not to be underestimated, but a 0.02% risk is not very much. You could argue that this risk is acceptable, which is what the government's advisors were saying. (I wonder what the risk of tobacco smoking causing lung cancer was... probably in the region of 10%? Now that's a significant risk, but tobacco smoking isn't banned).

But the government has to think about loads of other things too - policing, social disorder etc so it's not purely a health issue. It's also a very hot political topic - and raising the bar is also quite a safe bet which has more to do with the government's decision. Like a lot of people have said though - it won't make much difference to anyone's lives, whether you smoke or not. My feelings are that I really don't care about it

[Caleb]

I watched a pretty interesting program on weed pretty much the other night at 2 in the morning, had some middle aged woman who was clearly passed it but doing her best to cover the fact doing tests while stoned, then when sober etc.

i think one of the statements was after excessive use, 3-4 joints daily for 4 years or so is meant to increase your chances of becoming psychotic by 50%. But is also heavily influenced by hereditary factors too etc.

saying that if you have no history of psychosis/scitzophrenia in your family then its a pretty small risk.

My mate at uni lives his life around it pretty much and hes changed a lot. Speaks with Jim morrison lingo and proper analyzes songs when they're playing etc, which is fu**ing annoying !

[Jolfa]

I watched a pretty interesting program on weed pretty much the other night at 2 in the morning, had some middle aged woman who was clearly passed it but doing her best to cover the fact doing tests while stoned, then when sober etc.

I saw that, it was like alcohol vs cannabis, and alcohol turned out to be the worse substance in every test but they still narated it in such a way that the weed was worse, especially in the driving test;

Sober - stopping distance spot on

Pissed - ran over a baby

Stoned - didn't even get fast enough to get anywhere near the babies

[Caleb]

yeah was pretty interesting i thought, specially the bit about adding in the minute glass beads? not too sure on that but heard sand is sometimes blown over weed to weigh it down a bit more, who knows. . .

[Mark W]

Eh?

[Si-man]

If you buy good stuff from a proper dealer who grows his own then it will be gravy. Where I used to get mine he used to grow it himself. Just dont go near resin, that stuff is nasty. First smoked it when I was 10, do it on the odd occasion still now. Dont think its done much to me but then I was that young when I used to do it I wouldnt have noticed any change mentally

If people want to do it let them, its people who give people shite about it and all the "whats the point in using drugs to have fun?" routine that do my nut in. Re-classifying it won't do anything since it's so easy to get hold of these days.

[Dan-Walker]

I had an excellent friend who smoked weed and he had a phenomenal talent for music, but he had a kind of OCD where he must check all the doors he's locked to make sure he's locked them. Things like pulling the car door handles different amounts each time helped him remember he did it, but occasionally he said he'd wake up in the middle of the night and have to go and check the car.

thats what im like, and i dont even smoke lol

[Jolfa]

yeah was pretty interesting i thought, specially the bit about adding in the minute glass beads? not too sure on that but heard sand is sometimes blown over weed to weigh it down a bit more, who knows. . .

Yeah its like an aerosol of tiny glass beads, its what makes white lines on roads kinda glittery (apparently), had some of that shit before I knew about it, I couldn't breathe in fully for over a week without it hurting, and my friend had a couple of random nosebleeds for the first time in about 12years, not good at all watch out for it!

[Gavyn.]

I've been smoking it fairly regularly for the last year and noticed no memory loss or anything. I've been caught with it 2 times by the police and all they've done is pour it down a drain. However when Gordon Brown first came to power and i first heard rumours that it was going to be put back up, i promised myself that i'd quit it out if it did. partly because i'm on probation so get caught with a class b I could/probably would go to jail, partly because i can just about get f**ked out my head on drink legally, alcohol has a much better effect and is also cheaper i don't smoke any other time than the weekends so thats no problem. also i'm training for a triathlon so i reckon one night on the green knocks me back 2-3 days worth of training, i'll be semi-glad of getting it out of my life, it means that no one can class me as an idiot or anything like that.

might have to make an exception for t in the park though

i've had gritty weed before too, bastards, apparently it happens out of the country most of the time, i've even heard of people having their grass cut with heroin before it gets here.

[Revolver]

thats what im like, and i dont even smoke lol

hehe

he said he was like that before, but it's much worse now.

[Davetrials]

Getting HIGH taking ectasy and going to Alton Towers the super market?

more fun?

Edited May 10, 2008 by Davetrials

[LiamWood!]

Most of the people who smoke weed will probally not know its gone up to a class B.

Speaking of drugs cut with other substances, i was at a big house party last night. Lad come down with 1oz of cocain.

He said it was 'mint' 'banging' stuff, but it had atucally been cut with extercy, and probally other substances.

So even the drug thats thought of as clean because it so expensive isnt always clean.

And it wasent banging stuff to be honest

[Joe_Elding]

lol an oz of cocaine, sure about that?

[cadbury's cream egg]

i personally think it is fine as long as you dont abuse it if you know what i meen . if smoked weed since i was like 7 when i got this really bad illness . the weed carmed me down and i recovered its also good for old people with illnesses , bad joints and that . it works as like a pain killer. but you can do other things with it like make butter cakes milkshakes etc . witch can really help you carm down and if your ill or have on going pain it can help you get through it . i personally dont have a problem with it . i know loads of people that smoke it , and i dont think that it going to be class b is going to affect the people that sell it or smoke it

but thats my views

leon

[LiamWood!]

1 ounce yes.

[Joe_Elding]

What so someone carried over £500 of a class A substance into a party and didnt get robbed/arrested?

[Davetrials]

thort it was all measured in G's?

[Joe_Elding]

It is, an ounce is 28grams.

[Davetrials]

i think someone has that wrong,

or you have a rich friend...