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Love Or Hate Lily Allen?


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Ok from this site and others in would seem the general consensus is to change the drums.

I will work on that :D

Thanks for the feedback and re: Lily, I like her and her music. Kate Nash and suchlike are wannabe Lily's and should not exist.

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Chris martin has a really good dry sense of humour. In interviews, he is very subtle but has a very quick, humerous mind that he hides behind his normal answers. I think he's a funny guy.

The reference to coldplay in 40 year old virgin is still funny though

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I couldn't download it before, just had a listen now. Sorry, I don't like it at all! The synths are disturbingly out of tune (wrong key?) with the chorus, it pains my ears! The beats are weird but then I know that's the D&B thing, but it's too slow for that? Generally I tend to like covers when they add something to the original or move it over to a different genre (See Jose Gonzalez's cover of Heartbeats, Radiohead's Nobody Does It Better and Amy Winehouse/Mark Ronson doing Valerie). But to me you don't really add anything to set it apart from the original. Now I know it's not a 'cover' as such, but I still think it needs to sound more different if you want it to be interesting. If it's just to be played in the background in a chillout part of a club then I suppose that's a bit different.

I feel a bit harsh saying this because it's obviously taken a lot of work and it does sound very professionally-made. But I don't like it :)

Just one question: How do you isolate the vocals and stuff? Do you just have to buy/download the track with no backing or can you do something cleverer than that? I always wondered this.

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Snare: 1:30 through 1:50, and then when it's repeated through the rest of the track - overpowers the rest of the track and as such sounds almost MIDI-esque

Yer he said it better then me Mike. Just generally a bit overpowering.

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I couldn't download it before, just had a listen now. Sorry, I don't like it at all! The synths are disturbingly out of tune (wrong key?) with the chorus, it pains my ears! The beats are weird but then I know that's the D&B thing, but it's too slow for that? Generally I tend to like covers when they add something to the original or move it over to a different genre (See Jose Gonzalez's cover of Heartbeats, Radiohead's Nobody Does It Better and Amy Winehouse/Mark Ronson doing Valerie). But to me you don't really add anything to set it apart from the original. Now I know it's not a 'cover' as such, but I still think it needs to sound more different if you want it to be interesting. If it's just to be played in the background in a chillout part of a club then I suppose that's a bit different.

I feel a bit harsh saying this because it's obviously taken a lot of work and it does sound very professionally-made. But I don't like it :)

Just one question: How do you isolate the vocals and stuff? Do you just have to buy/download the track with no backing or can you do something cleverer than that? I always wondered this.

No it's fine mate, to be fair I've had no musical training - taught myself production and use pretty crap software lol The synths were originally used in a trance track I made, so I slowed it down to make a chilled out trancey kinda tune but much slower. That sounded boring so I looked up some Acapellas (Just vocals, no other elements) and found Lily's one. I like her stuff anyway so thought I'd give it a go. The vocals don't fit that well but then the track wasn't made for the lyrics, they were just added to give the track something more...

I think what you mean about the pad and vocals being out of tune - I can easily sort that :)

I'm still learning and teaching myself - if I had a producer friend that could help and £k's worth of software I reckon I'd be pretty good.

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No it's fine mate, to be fair I've had no musical training - taught myself production and use pretty crap software lol

Nah I was only saying that because I've heard some of your other stuff and it's really good. Much better than this one :P

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