TrAsHeR Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) Hi there,I have a pair of koxx browns ready to fit and also some a pair of cnc backing.Would it be possible to fit the koxx compound into the metal backing?If so, will super glue do the job?Cheers Edited May 11, 2008 by TrAsHeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Yes and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCongreve Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I'm pretty sure that'd be fine. Just use the oven job to get the pads out of the plastic backings, and glue them in. I think normal superglue's alright, just make sure to clamp and leave it for long enough.I've heard people do this before and say it gives a really good brake so i wouldn't mind trying it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 i've never even bothered with glue...just whack 'em in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks for the quick answer.What kind of temperature should the oven be and for how long?Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) It has been done before, there was a lil topic about them. I should be getting my Koxx browns soon, now to hunt down some backings This was the topic but the pics dont work anymore. Edited May 6, 2008 by kcchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 i've never even bothered with glue...just whack 'em in.yea but your off your rocker crazy man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Epoxy is best for gluing them in. Don't use super glue, it doesn't really work too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 i've never even bothered with glue...just whack 'em in.A mate of mine did that with his Vee pads,And on a ride yesterday the material flew out of the backing on a gap to front! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks for the quick answer.What kind of temperature should the oven be and for how long?Cheers.A much easier meathod is to just boil them. Pan of boiling water on the stove, chuck the pads in for a few minutes, take them out and pull them out with some pliars. Job done. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 AlrightCheers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 They make a fantastic brake, Ben Savage runs brown's in metal backings, or at least did a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 A much easier meathod is to just boil them. Pan of boiling water on the stove, chuck the pads in for a few minutes, take them out and pull them out with some pliars. Job done. RichYeah boiling works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 A much easier meathod is to just boil them. Pan of boiling water on the stove, chuck the pads in for a few minutes, take them out and pull them out with some pliars. Job done. Richi found oven works better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 boiling doesn't work every time. depends on the glue...put them in the oven, turn it up to 160 degrees. when it's hot they're done. take them out and just pull the pads out of the backings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 boiling doesn't work every time. depends on the glue...put them in the oven, turn it up to 160 degrees. when it's hot they're done. take them out and just pull the pads out of the backings.Koxx pads are harder to remove with the boiling method than some. The oven method is quick, clean and works every time Pad glue wise, superglue is great for tight fitting pads (as used for the original pads which are made to be a snug fit for HSB CNC backings ). Superglue is thin and so is great at wetting the surfaces in small gaps, plus it dries quickly for speed of assembly. The best pad & backing combo is where the pads are a tight fit and so will actually hold strongly in the backings when pressed in. In this case, it's useful to wet the surfaces with super-glue to lubricate the surfaces so the pad inserts fully. Innuendo unintended but unavoidable!If you end up with a pad from a plastic backing which is a loose fit due to material lost in the original backing, or it being undersized from normal, then Epoxy glue (The one with the 2 tubes) is great because it can be used as a space filler. The strong Epoxy glues (see packaging for info) will dry in hours rather than seconds for the Superglues. Something to be mindful of before you put them on your bike and go out riding!Don't forget the CNC backing guide up on my website which gives step by step help with photos on replacing pads in HSB Vee & Magura backings.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 The thread mentioned above was mine and unfortunately I've got rid of the pics.But I'm still using that setup and it is awesome.I put the koxx bloxx in the oven at 190 for about 5 mins and they just popped right out.I dont use any glue to hold them in, just got to do some slight modification with a sharp blade and you're away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Koxx pads are harder to remove with the boiling method than some. The oven method is quick, clean and works every time Pad glue wise, superglue is great for tight fitting pads (as used for the original pads which are made to be a snug fit for HSB CNC backings ). Superglue is thin and so is great at wetting the surfaces in small gaps, plus it dries quickly for speed of assembly. The best pad & backing combo is where the pads are a tight fit and so will actually hold strongly in the backings when pressed in. In this case, it's useful to wet the surfaces with super-glue to lubricate the surfaces so the pad inserts fully. Innuendo unintended but unavoidable!If you end up with a pad from a plastic backing which is a loose fit due to material lost in the original backing, or it being undersized from normal, then Epoxy glue (The one with the 2 tubes) is great because it can be used as a space filler. The strong Epoxy glues (see packaging for info) will dry in hours rather than seconds for the Superglues. Something to be mindful of before you put them on your bike and go out riding!Don't forget the CNC backing guide up on my website which gives step by step help with photos on replacing pads in HSB Vee & Magura backings.SteveThe thread mentioned above was mine and unfortunately I've got rid of the pics.But I'm still using that setup and it is awesome.I put the koxx bloxx in the oven at 190 for about 5 mins and they just popped right out.I dont use any glue to hold them in, just got to do some slight modification with a sharp blade and you're away. Cheers Guys.Very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 any pad can fit in the backings, plus super glue is u best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'm bored and have just put some new material in so here you goNo glue, cut off the little bits to make it fit the backing put it in place (nice and snug) and clamped in a vice to get them all the way in and level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'm bored and have just put some new material in so here you goNo glue, cut off the little bits to make it fit the backing put it in place (nice and snug) and clamped in a vice to get them all the way in and level.Looks so sweet, what knife did you use to cut a bit off the material?And yeah koxx should make some refills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 just a hobby knife. they're not that hard to cut through really, any old stanley knife will do. The thinner the blade the easier and more pretty (not that you'll see that bit)I should have taken a pic of the material after I cut it to show you, but they're on my bike now. Oh well, next time perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I also did some today though, mine turned out pretty dog shit tbf compared to james quigley's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 So I took the material out of the plastic backings and then cutted a bit off the each sides.Then pushed it in, put some superglue on the side and then in a vice.And when I took it out of the vice the middle of the material just popped back out.What should I do?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I took out the material a scraped off all the glue that was on it and took a picture.The red lines are where I cut out a bit of material.Is that all I have to cut?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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