basher Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 shit me, is that an arrow racing mod rim?no i think its a onza proto rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzojim Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 hi,so after all these holes have been drilled eveywhere, what is the total weight of the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Joe likes drilling but I dont think he is the type of weight weenie that is after the lightest bike ever, He just knows that it helps when the bike is lighter. In other words I don't think he has weighed it. We will soon see if it makes a difference as he is competing this weekend in Barca,fingers crossed, He deserves some recognition on an international level as he is an awesome rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 That rim looks amazing, Im actually bord of the standard drilled rims now, and people used the square hole method and yer it looks good but it takes ages, this look much more intresting by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Joe likes drilling but I dont think he is the type of weight weenie that is after the lightest bike ever, He just knows that it helps when the bike is lighter. In other words I don't think he has weighed it. We will soon see if it makes a difference as he is competing this weekend in Barca,fingers crossed, He deserves some recognition on an international level as he is an awesome rider.Just asked him, Its 8.3KG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 too many holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 too many holesHmm, I'm not keen on the rear rim either.8.3 you say? That's not bad going, what wheels has he got in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hmm, I'm not keen on the rear rim either.8.3 you say? That's not bad going, what wheels has he got in there?Rear hub is a king, front wheel be a tmaster hub which are pritty light and mint hubs. And rims are tensile/onza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Rear hub is a king, front wheel be a tmaster hub which are pritty light and mint hubs. And rims are tensile/onza.So simple and underated hubs them.I can't see how it's 8.3kg though, it's not an especially light spec. Ah well, it's certainly light enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Im not to sure on it being 8.3 either, thats only 200g's heavier than Tarty Adam's xtp which has koxx hubs, dob rims and a lighter frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted April 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) Well thats what Andrei said the other day, Whats the heavy thing on there though?The weight of the frame joe rides has not been announced so it might be lighter then an XTP. Edited April 21, 2008 by Joe@Onza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Quite like that frame Wheels look different but good ~Matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 wow something different, on the rim that is. crazy amount of drilling... thats going to be fun when it comes to cleaning..if they make a 26 it'll look just like a vario..steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Just some pics of him on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) So simple and underated hubs them.I can't see how it's 8.3kg though, it's not an especially light spec. Ah well, it's certainly light enough!Im not to sure on it being 8.3 either, thats only 200g's heavier than Tarty Adam's xtp which has koxx hubs, dob rims and a lighter frame.You two really need to come to terms with the fact that weight doesnt matter as much as you seem to think it does. Neither of you are world class riders, or even regular competition riders, so why do you mess around with super light parts so much?Bike looks good though, could shave some weight if he stripped it and had it anodized though Edited April 25, 2008 by JonMack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 You two really need to come to terms with the fact that weight doesnt matter as much as you seem to think it does. Neither of you are world class riders, or even regular competition riders, so why do you mess around with super light parts so much?I can't see how those 2 talking about light bikes had any effect on you? This is trials-forum where people talk about every aspect of riding and bikes. If they want to talk about weight and have super light bikes how is that skin off your nose? I'm not having a go at you I'm just saying if they find it enjoyable to talk about saving weight then why not let them? Why do they have to be competition riders to have light bikes? Even people who ride for fun can have light bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 You two really need to come to terms with the fact that weight doesnt matter as much as you seem to think it does. Neither of you are world class riders, or even regular competition riders, so why do you mess around with super light parts so much?Bike looks good though, could shave some weight if he stripped it and had it anodized though I can't see how those 2 talking about light bikes had any effect on you? This is trials-forum where people talk about every aspect of riding and bikes. If they want to talk about weight and have super light bikes how is that skin off your nose? I'm not having a go at you I'm just saying if they find it enjoyable to talk about saving weight then why not let them? Why do they have to be competition riders to have light bikes? Even people who ride for fun can have light bikes.I enjoy trying to loose weight from my bike, and it does matter, especially in comps and on natural. It interests me to see how far you can go with it, whilst still having a bike that rides really nicely. My bike doesn't have super light parts, I have a deng frame and mainly Monty parts, and my bike weighs just over 9kg. I enjoy talking about it and trying to think of new ways to loose weight, but I haven't drilled anything and I have a bashplate.Actually, I am going to ride all the YMSA comps this year, and as many motorbike ones as I can get to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I can't see how those 2 talking about light bikes had any effect on you? This is trials-forum where people talk about every aspect of riding and bikes. If they want to talk about weight and have super light bikes how is that skin off your nose? I'm not having a go at you I'm just saying if they find it enjoyable to talk about saving weight then why not let them? Why do they have to be competition riders to have light bikes? Even people who ride for fun can have light bikes.It doesn't, I just think it's kinda pathetic that all they seem to care about is getting the lightest bike possible, and whenever anyone claims a weight of their bike they dispute it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 It doesn't, I just think it's kinda pathetic that all they seem to care about is getting the lightest bike possible, and whenever anyone claims a weight of their bike they dispute it.I did just say my bike was 9kg, which is far from the lightest bike possible.And I'd like to know when I have disputed the weight for anyone elses bike, but I do think that 8.3kg is very low for the spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) I try to make my bike as light as possible because I want to. As you said before, I'm not exactly a top class rider, so therefore I'm going to take every advantage I can to make my self better. If I can buy something which doesn't make my bike ride horrible, isn't going to break straight away and is light....what's wrong with that?I believe I have improved a lot since I rode regular weight bikes, this may have been down to weight but I doubt it, however I guarantee that in some way having a light bike does help...even if it's just a mental thing.The reason I "dispute" about how much a bike weighs is because just by looking at the spec of a bike I can tell that a certain weight isn't possible with certain parts, it's a fact! For example, on Joe's Onza it has a King back hub which weighs nearly double what a try-all does, and all the other parts are pretty average weight wise (frame is about 2kg's?). To get a bike to 8.3kg's you either need a lot of koxx/dob parts or a lot of holes. I may be completely wrong but it's just what I think, afterall this is a discussion forum.Im proud of bike still riding nice (IMO) and being around 8.5kg's!About the whole weight thing I would just say that it's each to their own really. No one is wrong/right. Edited April 25, 2008 by Alex-Mitchinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 on Joe's Onza it has a King back hub which weighs nearly double what a try-all does,but he doesn't have the weight of a freewheel and tryall f.w + tryall hub = 179+169=368, versus king + sprocket = 292 + 40=332. cough also the king probably = shorter spokes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 shite it jus wanted to be a hydroxx with the paint job and i dont like the rims sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 The reason I "dispute" about how much a bike weighs is because just by looking at the spec of a bike I can tell that a certain weight isn't possible with certain parts, it's a fact! For example, on Joe's Onza it has a King back hub which weighs nearly double what a try-all does, and all the other parts are pretty average weight wise (frame is about 2kg's?). To get a bike to 8.3kg's you either need a lot of koxx/dob parts or a lot of holes. I may be completely wrong but it's just what I think, after all this is a discussion forum.Alex, The frame is very light, Prob about 1.6 KG. I've heard as well that a king BMX set up is lighter then a freewheel setup. And since I last posted I have herd it from Joe himself that it does weigh that much. I'm not going to go into it much more on defending the weight but I really cant see why it should not be that weight. The thread was about the bike picture not about who are weight weenies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 From what I remembered from the onza news topic, most of the frames were around 2kg's, I admit I did not go and check the weight before posting in this topic. I aplogise for being so quick to dispute the weight of the bike. I'm just so used to seeing bikes with lots of mag/ti stuff for it to be that light. End of weight arguement.Still think the bike looks really nice, anxious to see all the end details etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Looks nice Do you know what the geometry is ???????????Thanks Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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