gu trials Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Hi all Is the echo brake better than the HS33 magura or is the magura better. Since the tpa in the HS33 magura keeps breaking i woundered if the same thing would happen in the echo brake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 There's something to do with this at the very bottom of the page, on the left,Tis called the search! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Nah, better off with a maggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Just buy a metal TPA, since I brought my HEN ones all my problems with TPA's have gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.E.A.U Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 echo is the worst brake ever to buy deng cant make evrything good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dengura slaves are OK apparantly, use them with an RB/Maggy lever and you'll be reet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I hate deng brakes. I've had like 4 of them, and they're all shit. My friend just ordered one here, and broke his line taking it out of the box. The lines break VERY easily, TPA F's the lever up, they leak, can't be bled with water, are a bitch to fix...and magura has 5 times longer warranty on their brakes...oh and the pistons don't seem to move out from the cylinders as much as a magura does. The brake also feels sluggish, slow rebound, and they're spongy too...Just get a magura with HEN TPA and a deng lever, then you're set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu trials Posted April 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 already had a few normal red TPA balls and 2 74kingz and i have a hen one at the moment and it still broke . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 already had a few normal red TPA balls and 2 74kingz and i have a hen one at the moment and it still broke .Obviously you're doing something wrong then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu trials Posted April 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 yer ano but i dont no what if i knew what it was i was doing to brake it i wouldnt carry on braking it lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.E.A.U Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 I hate deng brakes. I've had like 4 of them, and they're all shit. My friend just ordered one here, and broke his line taking it out of the box. The lines break VERY easily, TPA F's the lever up, they leak, can't be bled with water, are a bitch to fix...and magura has 5 times longer warranty on their brakes...oh and the pistons don't seem to move out from the cylinders as much as a magura does. The brake also feels sluggish, slow rebound, and they're spongy too...Just get a magura with HEN TPA and a deng lever, then you're set cant be bled with water? i did mine with water and it was good still hate them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceman Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 The lines break VERY easilyoh and the pistons don't seem to move out from the cylinders as much as a magura does. The brake also feels sluggish, slow rebound, and they're spongy too...Just get a magura with HEN TPA and a deng lever, then you're set For me I started trials recently, and I started off with a dengura for the rear (I got them really cheap). I haven't really tried a maggie yet, but I know that a maggy is way better (German > Chinese).Have to agree on the lines and pistons. My line broke. As for the pistons, they don't really come out much means that you can't really make full use of your pads. Probably when there's about 30-40% of pad left, you can't use them, you have to use those offset clamps (I haven't faced this problem yet, but that's what my friend said).Anyway, I would be getting myself a maggy at the next upgrade, and use back the deng lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) Anyway, I would be getting myself a maggy at the next upgrade, and use back the deng lever.That's what I did...works great cant be bled with water? i did mine with water and it was goodThen you're one of the few that it actually worked for. A lot more people have had leak problems when bled with water than not...But canola oil works great. Bled two with canola oil, rebound is a tad slower, hardly noticable...but denguras have shit rebound anyway. Edited April 22, 2008 by Jason222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 If you're looking for suitable oil for bleeding Maguras (And any other brake with mineral oil), head to your local motor factors and get some Citroen suspension fluid (LHM). It's a slightly different colour to Maguras blood, but feels, behaves and smells pretty similar, so I reckon it's the same stuff. I've been using it in my Maguras for years (And in various mineral oil disk brakes) with no issues... I think I got half a litre of oil for about a fiver and I've still got 2/3 of it left many years and many bleeds (Mostly on other people's brakes) later. Thankfully since mineral oil isn't hygroscopic it doesn't deteriorate with time like DOT fluid, so there's no problem storing it for long periods... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 already had a few normal red TPA balls and 2 74kingz and i have a hen one at the moment and it still broke .Have you greesed up the threads before installing the new one?As this could lead to easily stipping the threads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 already had a few normal red TPA balls and 2 74kingz and i have a hen one at the moment and it still broke .right, take your lever apart... do it now, take the tpa off, you should do that now too, and look at the threads on the bolt that the tpa screws on to. thats you're problem, i imagine that is stripped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 right, take your lever apart... do it now, take the tpa off, you should do that now too, and look at the threads on the bolt that the tpa screws on to. thats you're problem, i imagine that is strippedI think ive broken 2 05 tpas and 1 04, how the hell did u manage to strip 2 74 kings and a hen aswell? lmao, jesus, there must be something wrong with ur pin like ash said, if not then your using way too much tpa/your bleeds are wank.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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