mehukatti Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Do you use the quick lock link in KMC chains? Can it be trusted or should I just connect it in normal style with a pin and a chain tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 chain tool way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 I have run one for a week with no problems.They seem strong and it is quicker to fit so its all thumbs up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Used to run one ...For almost a year.Then I sold the bike - It's not snapped yet, so far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The link is there for a reason, the pins are mushroom headed and by using a chain tool you are removing the head and making the chain weaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The link is there for a reason, the pins are mushroom headed and by using a chain tool you are removing the head and making the chain weakerDing ding ding! We have a winner!I always use mine simply because it's stronger than a joined link, and - when you trials guys finally start properly using horizontal dropouts on frames - you'll find it's way more convenient than faffing about with a chain-tool again, thus weakening your chain even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The link is there for a reason, the pins are mushroom headed and by using a chain tool you are removing the head and making the chain weakerDing ding ding! We have a winner!I always use mine simply because it's stronger than a joined link, and - when you trials gays finally start properly using horizontal dropouts on frames - you'll find it's way more convenient than faffing about with a chain-tool again, thus weakening your chain even more.I always do it using chain tool and my chain never have been broken whereas i have snapped several "quick link".... and i never ever will use a quick link again.so "ding ding ding" ! i'm not sure we have a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I always do it using chain tool and my chain never have been broken whereas i have snapped several "quick link".... and i never ever will use a quick link again. ditto. I don't see why you'd use a quick link that's about 10-15% weaker than the rest of the chain... might as well just use a normal MTB chain, save some weight and still risk your teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Are quick links weaker/different than/to split links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Are quick links weaker/different than/to split links?Same thing as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Same thing, different name (I'm assuming!?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I've ran a split link on my KMC for almost 9months now! Luck is on my side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tom* Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 How are quick links any weeker than a normal link?, if you talking about the same ones im thinking about, the type with two plates, and a clip that you put on with pliers?. If they have two side plates surely its as strong as the rest of the chain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt middler Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I carry a quick link with me if im out riding only to use if i really need to whichis not very often as i carry a chain tool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 How are quick links any weeker than a normal link?, if you talking about the same ones im thinking about, the type with two plates, and a clip that you put on with pliers?. If they have two side plates surely its as strong as the rest of the chain? It's the shape of the plate that makes a difference. The KHE split links are actually quite good (same shape as the rest of the chain), but the KMC ones are thinner in the centre which makes them more likely to break.The clips can also pop off when they get old, I've seen that a few times.... scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 (edited) How are quick links any weeker than a normal link?, if you talking about the same ones im thinking about, the type with two plates, and a clip that you put on with pliers?. If they have two side plates surely its as strong as the rest of the chain? This is just a guess, but maybe when the chain 'streches' the split-link doesn't? And this would put a lot of stress on the split-link and eventually cause it to snap.EDIT: nevermind, Adam proved my theory wrong Edited April 6, 2008 by cai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tom* Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 why would the rest of the chain stretch and the quick link not? . . that makes the quick link stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 why would the rest of the chain stretch and the quick link not? . . that makes the quick link stronger. It was only a theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tom* Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 It's the shape of the plate that makes a difference. The KHE split links are actually quite good (same shape as the rest of the chain), but the KMC ones are thinner in the centre which makes them more likely to break.The clips can also pop off when they get old, I've seen that a few times.... scary.Ah right, fair play. I don't use one was just curious, normally just burr the head of the pin over when i've joined my chain, never have any problems.It was only a theory.Sorry didn't mean to sound like im having a go or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrico Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 i Still dont understand how its weaker, the split link has one plate with two pins on it, then another plate; same thickness as all the other links goes on top which is secured by the clip. So its still got two normal side plates on with two mushroom shaped pins wit a tight fitting lockin clip. I read adams comment and still not sure as to how they are weaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tom* Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I think what adams saying is that the side plate on the KMC links is thinner metal in the middle, making it more likely to break than the rest of the chain...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Which is stronger, Red or Blue?Red is like a split link, blue is a normal link (well, a KHE link)...http://www.ison-distribution.com/ison/imag...kmc-unilink.jpgI think what adams saying is that the side plate on the KMC links is thinner metal in the middle, making it more likely to break than the rest of the chain...?Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 It's the shape of the plate that makes a difference. The KHE split links are actually quite good (same shape as the rest of the chain), but the KMC ones are thinner in the centre which makes them more likely to break.The clips can also pop off when they get old, I've seen that a few times.... scary.Happend to me 2 days ago chain tool *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 am i one of the few people that has never snapped a chain on a trials bike and i just used sram single speed chains....never had an issue at all. dont over tension it and its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I read on the back of the cheap chain that I bought that the split link was 13% stronger than the rest of it. this is because it has thicker plates which are also the same shape as the normal links plates. It's not snapped yet anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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