My Work Wants £5.69 From Me.

[JT!]

Basicly if my till is down by more than £5 per week, i have to pay it back. And my contract says that also (there abouts), which i have signed.

I never get chance to count my till, and at the end of the night i stick it in the office and it gets checked in the morning when i'm not there. If i were to count my till at the end of the night and when i start, i'd be looking at the best part of half an hour of what i would consider working without pay. Which being human i'm not prepared to do.

I only worked one night on the week in question due to comming back off my holidays, didn't count the till at all on that night. And i wasn't informed my till was down by £5.69 untill a good 7 days later.

It kind of pissed me off becuase it's the first time it's happend and my till as far as i'm aware has always been reaonsable, now they're shitting themselves over a few quid.

Sooo, how can i get out of paying it? Any legal loopholes etc.

GO!

[The Stig]

Basicly if my till is down by more than £5 per week, i have to pay it back. And my contract says that also (there abouts), which i have signed.

I never get chance to count my till, and at the end of the night i stick it in the office and it gets checked in the morning when i'm not there. If i were to count my till at the end of the night and when i start, i'd be looking at the best part of half an hour of what i would consider working without pay. Which being human i'm not prepared to do.

I only worked one night on the week in question due to comming back off my holidays, didn't count the till at all on that night. And i wasn't informed my till was down by £5.69 untill a good 7 days later.

It kind of pissed me off becuase it's the first time it's happend and my till as far as i'm aware has always been reaonsable, now they're shitting themselves over a few quid.

Sooo, how can i get out of paying it? Any legal loopholes etc.

GO!

Right well obviously your contract legally binds you to pay it so either pay or well lose your job. As for loopholes there aren't any unless seeing your contract. Read it carefully as i am sure a mistake can only be redeemed/payed back when noticed within 72 hours or something stupid like that, legal mumbo jumbo. But to be honest i reckon if you enjoy your job and wish to stay there steal 5.69 from another till one night haha but not your

EDIT: and look for something like YOU must cash up tills and it is YOUR responsibility just in case if you do argue the toss you could get in a whole lot more of trouble.

Edited March 27, 2008 by Boss

[JT!]

Read it carefully as i am sure a mistake can only be redeemed/payed back when noticed within 72 hours or something stupid like that, legal mumbo jumbo.

I have read it over a few times, all it says it basicly by signing this you are agreeing to that if any stock or monies is unacounted for you will be required to pay back blah blah blah.

The people who i work for have made a lot of mistakes and don't really know what they're doing, so something like the 72 hours notice thing sounds right, i just need somewhere offical to say that.

[N.Wood]

Where do you work?

Concentrate when taking mony? I dunno.

[The Stig]

I have read it over a few times, all it says it basicly by signing this you are agreeing to that if any stock or monies is unacounted for you will be required to pay back blah blah blah.

The people who i work for have made a lot of mistakes and don't really know what they're doing, so something like the 72 hours notice thing sounds right, i just need somewhere offical to say that.

Right so it is your till that is down, after a week of you being away on holiday and you have to pay it back?? Easy way out say you counted the till and it was fine before hand and stand you ground it has been tampered with.... (seems that way anyway)

Whos the company?

Tom

Just another after thought if you had only worked one day of the week and they cannot pin poin the day it wa down with proof whoever was working that week would have to pay it. My old job did that as they can't pin point a mistake to one person so we all shared the 25p under till haha.

[JT!]

Right so it is your till that is down, after a week of you being away on holiday and you have to pay it back?? Easy way out say you counted the till and it was fine before hand and stand you ground it has been tampered with.... (seems that way anyway)

Whos the company?

Tom

Just another after thought if you had only worked one day of the week and they cannot pin poin the day it wa down with proof whoever was working that week would have to pay it. My old job did that as they can't pin point a mistake to one person so we all shared the 25p under till haha.

Well they told me "Week comencing you were £5.69". I worked on night during that week. So it'll have had to have been that one night. I didn't count the till and i'm not going to lie about it.

Where do you work?

Concentrate when taking mony? I dunno.

I do, may have been my fault, may have not. It just pisses me off that all's been well untill now, and they ask for £5 from me, you would have thought they'd have let it slide.

[Joe Sheehan!]

Well they told me "Week comencing you were £5.69". I worked on night during that week. So it'll have had to have been that one night. I didn't count the till and i'm not going to lie about it.

I do, may have been my fault, may have not. It just pisses me off that all's been well untill now, and they ask for £5 from me, you would have thought they'd have let it slide.

Your just gonna have to swallow your pride and pay it mate. You signed the contract so you cant really get around it.

[Danny]

Is the till checked/changed before you start? They hardly can blame you if 3 people have used it before you.

When i used to work at the co-op and they were till checking my till was about £3 up hah.

[JT!]

Is the till checked/changed before you start? They hardly can blame you if 3 people have used it before you.

It used to be changed 30mins befor i got there, but now it's changed when i get there. I counted my till yesterday and it was up 50p.

However, sometimes i see poeple using my till.

[Revolver]

i don't think you can get out of that

at least its not too much =/

where do you work?

[Bondy]

Dependent on where you work, just get a friend to come through the till and accidentally forget to scan one of his items, sell it and make up for any money that they say you have lost and live with a bad conscience.

Also it does seem a bit unfair, especially if it is one of those places where you count the money at the end of the day yet more than one person has been on it.

At tesco's ive been talked to a few times about money going missing from a till, but they didnt seem too bothered, just asked if i knew anything about it, i said no and they didnt really care.

Although, if it is just you using the till, just be extra careful when dealing with the money

Edited March 27, 2008 by Bondy

[froggy]

If 3 people had been on the till that would equal a total shortage of £17.07? Assuming that till wasn't checked/changed before and after your shift. Then £17.07 is a pretty big cock up and I guess you'll have to live with it. It wouldn't make sense if the total shortage was £5.69 and your getting the blame for it, or, you and the other 2 are getting the blame for it and paying back a £17.07 sum for a shortage of £5.69. Which to be fair would be a £1.90 shortage each, which would lead to no action?

Who do you work for?

EDIT: Don't know where I got the idea 3 people using the till from, but you get the jist.

Edited March 27, 2008 by froggy

[Ben Cox]

there is absolutely no way they can take the monies from you!!!

1:you werent allowed to count the float before using it. (so you wouldnt of been able to see if it was up or down)

2: they cashed up the float without you present, meaning it wasnt witnessed...

not a leg to stand on.

Ben

[JT!]

We have a sign out back saying "All staff must come in 5 mins befor work to sign in and check the float". So we can check it, but this is pointless becuase we can't check it afterwards unless we stay behind untill 15 mins after we close. Which i'm not prepared to do.

Edited March 28, 2008 by JT!

[N.Wood]

We have a sign out back saying "All staff must come in 5 mins befor work to sign in and check the float". So we can check it, but this is pointless becuase we can't check it afterwards unless we stay behind untill 15 mins after we close. Which i'm not prepared to do.

If you're not prepared to spare 20 mins out of your freetime, then you should be prepred to pay the consequences (i.e a fiver)?

[Dan Clark]

Just pay it, and then nick £4 from the till for a few days, make a profit that way.

[JT!]

If you're not prepared to spare 20 mins out of your freetime, then you should be prepred to pay the consequences (i.e a fiver)?

If i spend 20 mins every day that's an hour a week. At 5.52 per hour, that's me missing out on £5.52 a week.

I might aswell work an extra hour a day, as this has only happend once in half a year.

[N.Wood]

Which is what I was thinking, so surely giving up a fiver now is better than iving up a fiver each week?

[Token]

Where do you work?

I just want to make sure I never apply to a shit company that scrounges money from the employees.

[tomturd]

We have a sign out back saying "All staff must come in 5 mins befor work to sign in and check the float". So we can check it, but this is pointless becuase we can't check it afterwards unless we stay behind untill 15 mins after we close. Which i'm not prepared to do.

Legally you should get paid for the hours you work, end of. So if you come in 5 mins early to check the till, leave 5 mins early, or add 5 mins to your time sheet. If you have to stay an extra 15 mins to complete your job then add that to your time sheet, or let the managers know that you need to finish 15 mins early to count up. Legally theres nothing they can do.

[JT!]

Which is what I was thinking, so surely giving up a fiver now is better than iving up a fiver each week?

But it's not each week, this is the first time this has happend.

I'll have to ask my manager about what your on about tomturd. I don't mind comming in a few mins early if i get paid for it.

[Heatsink]

A great idea to jot down all your questions & suggestions, and ask for a chat with your manager. If you already come to the chat outlining the problem well with a list of suggested solutions and their ups/downs, then you'll make the manager's job easier for them which they will appreciate.

As long as you remain calm during the chat, have a 2 way exchange (rather than a one way rant!) and go through your points in a structured way, making it clear that you've thought it all out well, and are clear that you want to help make it work then it can only look good on you. A conscientious worker!

It is a relatively small amount of money, but you would do well I think to say that you'd like to help sort it out rather that let this sort of thing continue over time which just de-motivates everyone, nip it in the bud, so you can all get back to doing your jobs well.

Steve

P.S. Just thought: To counter your boss saying he's too busy for a chat and to get on with work, have maybe 1/2 a A4 page summarising the problem, and the solutions you suggest for him to take away. As long as you've got a copy of this too then you can catch up at a more convenient moment. Maybe this sounds a bit over the top, but it could be that you've effectively handing back an hour or more of your pay everyday even though you've not made any mistakes yourself.

[Adam-Griffin]

Where do you work JT ?

[Tomm]

If it's a decent job that you plan on doing for a little while, £5.69 is nothing, just pay it. And then take a pound out of the till each time for the next 5 shifts

But if it's a rubbish job that you're not bothered about, I'd probably refuse to pay it. It's pretty unlikely you'll get fired, but you might lose out on shifts or get an official warning. I don't know, but at the end of the day it's only a fiver?

[The Stig]

heatsinks idea is amazing do that!!