Token Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 ??They werent always here though. And im not being racist, i just think its bullshit that they get to live so easily.The thing is, it isn't just the immigrant population that are sponging off the state. Take a look down at your local Council Estate. Guarentee you there'll be a fair few white families that are living off benefits or are on the doll because it's easier than going to work. The way these newspapers word it, is that the immigrants are the scum of the earth. I'm not saying I welcome them, you can't just 'send them home' and not address the problem that white 'scum of the earth' British families are doing the same thing. If Norway were handing out money left right an center to people who couldn't be bothered to work, I wouldn't be surprised if you had a load of immigrants moving there from 3rd world countries for a easy/better life. The fact of the matter is, this Country is too easy to live off benefits and the taxes are too high. Two problems that are linked an can be fixed. Unfortunately telling the voting population that they've got to work or they'll stop getting benefits doesn't do any favours for the political party trying to push through the law. The political parties have got to keep the population happy or they won't get into power, an being in power is where the money is. So it's in the politicians best interests to keep people happy by handing out benefits. Catch 22. It's not going to change, so you may aswell plan to move abroad if your fed up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 If we didn't have migrant workers here, our entire country would be totally f**ked.Yes but they're not in the paper so people don't hear about those workers, therefore in some peoples eyes they don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Interesting fact: Immigrants, overall, put back more money into the UK treasury than they take out through benefits, etc.I shit you not. However, the only newspapers that covered that were broadsheets, whereas the tabloids apparently decided to run pics of Jordan getting her tits out.Again.EDIT: Politicians also spend more money on themselves than immigrants get benefits too, btw. So maybe you should try pushing for the ceiling for expenses claims needing mandatory receipts to be lowered to £25 instead of the £250 it currently is. With it currently standing at £250, it basically means an MP can 'bill' the tax-payer up to £250 a day, without providing any proof whatsoever that they've actually spent £250 of their own money to adequately perform their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 f**k this, I'm moving into my flat soon and I'm on a low income. Is there anything wrong with me claiming income support and housing benefit etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 f**k this, I'm moving into my flat soon and I'm on a low income. Is there anything wrong with me claiming income support and housing benefit etc?According to some people, it's fine that you claim benefit because you're white.If your asking me personally, then I'd ask why you were moving into a flat if you can't afford to, with the income your on. Then I'd probably suggest that you get a better paying job or more hours. Obviously I don't have a right to tell you what you can and can't do, if you meet the criteria to claim benefit then you may aswell. Everyone else is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 That's the thing. I can afford to but I'll be struggling to feed myself properly or to live a decent life. I'm basically being forced to move out and I think the time has come to go really. Being nearly 24 and still living at home is a bit gay.Personally I think I should be entitled to it as I have paid my taxes since I was 16, my parents pay at least £1200 a month in tax and have never claimed a thing and my brother is about to go off to Afghanistan to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) mmmmim too tired after doing my assignments to care or to defend myself properly, but all ill say is;im not saying that they should be sent back because of their race, im saying it beacause the dad has migrated over here and settled, got a job, had some kids and has now decided to quit his job because his kids give him enough benefit money. Yeah fair enough, well done that hes figured out that you dont have to work but its just a waste of the economys money for people in his situation to come to the uk and not give anything back. If it means anything to you, its nothing to do with their race so dont jump to conlusions about it, if it was a family from germany or america i would feel the same. Im just peeved that great britain has lost its greatness, and you cant even fly an english flag in school due to this because it "may offend other religions". So what, its england?Call me narrow minded, but thats what I and a lot of the british population think. Im going to bed now so stir over this as much as you like, goodnight. Edited March 28, 2008 by Joe Sheehan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Narrow mindedHad to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Urgh, no point trying to argue here. So:he shouldn't keep firing his load into that woman's (probably by now f**king enormous) batcaveAhahahaha and:Narrow mindedHad to be done. I was going to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Can't they at least neuter him or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I couldn't even finish-off inside that once, let alone that many times. That geezer's got a good imagination, I'll bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 mmmmim too tired after doing my assignments to care or to defend myself properly, but all ill say is;im not saying that they should be sent back because of their race, im saying it beacause the dad has migrated over here and settled, got a job, had some kids and has now decided to quit his job because his kids give him enough benefit money. Yeah fair enough, well done that hes figured out that you dont have to work but its just a waste of the economys money for people in his situation to come to the uk and not give anything back. If it means anything to you, its nothing to do with their race so dont jump to conlusions about it, if it was a family from germany or america i would feel the same. Im just peeved that great britain has lost its greatness, and you cant even fly an english flag in school due to this because it "may offend other religions". So what, its england?Call me narrow minded, but thats what I and a lot of the british population think. Im going to bed now so stir over this as much as you like, goodnight.So does that mean anyone living in the UK who's "scrounging" should be immediately deported because they've found out that they can get more money from not working than from working? Scum are scum, no matter where they're from.I couldn't even finish-off inside that once, let alone that many times. That geezer's got a good imagination, I'll bet.Probably just thinking of the money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemteX Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Line 'em up for the firing squad along with all the others. Best solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Line 'em up for the firing squad along with all the others. Best solution.quoted before edit.what the f**k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Line 'em up for the firing squad along with all the others. Best solution.Just in case anyone was in any doubt whether racism was allowed on here, this guy just got a 2 day suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Fascist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Fascist. See you in a week, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Just in case anyone was in any doubt whether racism was allowed on here, this guy just got a 2 day suspension.He wasn't being rascist. His comment was in reply to Mark's comment about scroungers in general, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I thought it was pretty obvious he was refering to illegal immigrants, as it appears Tomm and Charlie did. I'm sure he'll argue he was replying to my post, but I strongly doubt it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 So does that mean anyone living in the UK who's "scrounging" should be immediately deported because they've found out that they can get more money from not working than from working? Scum are scum, no matter where they're from.Well no, if someone was a uk resident from birth then its another story, they've been here and have a right to be here so why should they be moved? Its migrants that annoy me, they come over here and just ponce and it costs the uk money that we work for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 A drain on the economy is a drain from the economy no matter what though. If - random figure - £100 million is spent on benefits a year, and £200 a week is going to some UK-born person who's rinsing the system, and £200 a week is going to someone who's moved to the UK who's rinsing the system, why bother segregating them? Just because they happened to be born in the UK doesn't really mean they're more entitled to rinse that much money from the system, if they did it in the style of the guy in the NOTW story?In that you yourself used the phrase "UK resident from birth", does that mean that guy's kid's should be entitled to take money from the system like that because they're "UK residents from birth" too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 A drain on the economy is a drain from the economy no matter what though. If - random figure - £100 million is spent on benefits a year, and £200 a week is going to some UK-born person who's rinsing the system, and £200 a week is going to someone who's moved to the UK who's rinsing the system, why bother segregating them? Just because they happened to be born in the UK doesn't really mean they're more entitled to rinse that much money from the system, if they did it in the style of the guy in the NOTW story?In that you yourself used the phrase "UK resident from birth", does that mean that guy's kid's should be entitled to take money from the system like that because they're "UK residents from birth" too?Yes it does. the reason i say uk resident from birth is that the chances are they went to school, got a job, worked for a good few years, got into some problems and are now on the dole, he will probably be on benefits for a while, but chances are he will get a job. Wheres someone whos migrated into this country probably works for a year has some kids and lives off the benefits because they know its easy living. I think that over a lifespan the uk born people would have given more to the economy than a migrant, and therefore deserve the benefits. And also, bit of a crap point really, but the uk government is likely to have the benefit system calculated for the people of the uk to use so they dont lose anything, so really they are more entitled for it. Cant really get my point across with the last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 And wtfs he so happy about; look at his kids! Little scrotbags, send them all home.You are aware a lot of (If not all?) those kids were born in the UK, so "sending them home" would be sending them to their room, effectively?Its been said before, and i'll say it again. "If a dog is born in a stable, it doesn't make it a horse."In that you yourself used the phrase "UK resident from birth", does that mean that guy's kid's should be entitled to take money from the system like that because they're "UK residents from birth" too?Yes it does.Um...EDIT: And equally, like I said before, immigrants put more back into the UK treasury than they take away, so they're a positive influence on the treasury. Positive = good, not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tomm Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Wheres someone whos migrated into this country probably works for a year has some kids and lives off the benefitsThat's a load of shit then, because the guy came across when he was 8 (in the 60s). So he didn't cost the UK any money in hospitals etc when he was born (which is quite a lot of money), had a few years of schooling, but he's worked for over 30 years in the UK. Which is more than you or me. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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